e.root-servers.net we have a problem..

2004-11-16 Thread Matt Hess
If there is someone on here that is responsible for e.root-servers.net and if that person could ping me off list I'd appreciate it, thanks.

Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?

2004-11-16 Thread Alex Bligh
--On 15 November 2004 17:24 -0800 Owen DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal. ARIN ASNs only? Alex

Re: EFF whitepaper

2004-11-16 Thread Paul G
- Original Message - From: Rich Kulawiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:10 AM Subject: Re: EFF whitepaper --- snip --- Collateral damage is unacceptable, period. Oh, I most certainly agree -- but then again, since nobody is being

Re: EFF whitepaper

2004-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Paul G wrote: with that said, this is quite possibly off-topic to nanog. i'd second the request earlier in the thread to move it to somewhere more appropriate. politechbot for instance .. lovely place to discuss this sort of thing. http://seclists.org/lists/politech/2004/Nov/0026.html -- suresh

India to tax / levy license fees on ISPs that offer VPNs

2004-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
http://www.india-gii.org/wiki/index.php/Position_Papers/VPN_Tax From Www.india-gii.org http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/923746.cms DoT to dash hopes of virtual private network ISPs MANOJ GAIROLA TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 2004 11:58:11 PM] NEW DELHI: Standalone ISPs,

web hosting recommendations

2004-11-16 Thread Matt Bazan
I need some recommendations on bullet proof enterprise grade web hosting. Nothing fancy as the back end is run from our locations. Off list is fine. Thanks, Matt

RE: web hosting recommendations

2004-11-16 Thread Matt Bazan
'bullet proof' as in mission critical - not as in spam. Couple people have pointed this out to me. Sorry for the confusion. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Bazan Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL

Central Europe Web hosting recommendations

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Airhart
I apologize for asking on the NA list (this is the only one I am one), but I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations of a good hosting site in central Europe (Amsterdam is great!)... Looking for basic space sold by the rack (+ bandwidth) with limited on site support (power backup

Re: Central Europe Web hosting recommendations

2004-11-16 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Airhart) writes: I apologize for asking on the NA list (this is the only one I am one), but I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations of a good hosting site in central Europe (Amsterdam is great!)... Looking for basic space sold by the rack (+

DDoS attacks...?

2004-11-16 Thread Matthew Sullivan
Hi All, Can people make a quick check the for DDoS attacks on 209.220.100.158 in the last 12 hours (to 00:00 17th Nov 2004 GMT+0) - I am trying to get the exact time it appeared to occur, however I suspect it was in the time period of 13:00-14:00 16th Nov 2004 GMT+0 which coincided with the

Re: India to tax / levy license fees on ISPs that offer VPNs

2004-11-16 Thread Deepak Jain
I guess it depends on how you define a VPN over just a private network. Is an SSH tunnel a VPN? What about an encrypting SOCKS proxy? DJ Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: http://www.india-gii.org/wiki/index.php/Position_Papers/VPN_Tax From Www.india-gii.org

Re: Central Europe Web hosting recommendations

2004-11-16 Thread Frank Louwers
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:51:12PM -0600, Michael Airhart wrote: I apologize for asking on the NA list (this is the only one I am one), but I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations of a good hosting site in central Europe (Amsterdam is great!)... Looking for basic space

Re: India to tax / levy license fees on ISPs that offer VPNs

2004-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Deepak Jain [16/11/04 18:15 -0500]: I guess it depends on how you define a VPN over just a private network. Is an SSH tunnel a VPN? What about an encrypting SOCKS proxy? This tax is aimed at a few Indian ISPs that are making lots of money selling managed IP-VPN services.. the incumbent

anycast stability experiment

2004-11-16 Thread Randy Bush
the verisign gang gave a good presentation of Life and Times of J-Root at the recent nanog meeting' see http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0410/pdf/kosters.pdf. on foils 27 to 29, they reported non-trivial routing jitter and therefore suggested DO NOT RUN anycast with stateful transport. on the

Re: EFF whitepaper

2004-11-16 Thread Fred Heutte
I doubt that the participants in this discussion who are getting so huffy about the EFF position are ready to tolerate a situation where unknown third parties can arbitrarily block any email they send or receive, without informing them, regardless of content. Think about how that maps to the

Cable and Wireless partners with Reliance to set up datacenters in India

2004-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
http://cwidc.com/JP/EN/news_events/media_center/2004/02_04_2004_16.html Says they're offering managed IP-VPN QoS besides other stuff like data center hosting, ATM, frame relay etc.. I'm sure they're going to be really happy with the proposed tax on managed VPN providers in India. srs --

Re: Cable and Wireless partners with Reliance to set up datacenters in

2004-11-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Doesn't this in theory mean any isp who hands you any pipe that you can slap a linksys VPN router on is also liable? Where does it begin? When it's the ISP who provides the router? What about colo? Isn't a dedicated box (with

Re: Cable and Wireless partners with Reliance to set up datacenters in

2004-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Doesn't this in theory mean any isp who hands you any pipe that you can slap a linksys VPN router on is also liable? Where does it begin? When it's the ISP who provides the router? What about colo? Isn't a dedicated box (with KAME/Ipsec/OpenVPN/etc) enough

Re: Cable and Wireless partners with Reliance to set up datacenters in

2004-11-16 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Doesn't this in theory mean any isp who hands you any pipe that you can slap a linksys VPN router on is also liable? Where does it begin? When it's the ISP who provides the router? What about colo?

Re: Cable and Wireless partners with Reliance to set up datacenters in

2004-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Christopher L. Morrow wrote: reference discussions about blocking VOIP from earlier this week (last week?) gov'ts sometimes are made to put in place dumb laws that can not be enforced in order to intimidate people and try to maintain the business of legacy/incumbent carriers :( CW being a legacy /

[Fwd: [SANOG] SANOG V - 6 Feb - 13 Feb, 2005, Dhaka, Bangladesh - Call for Presentations]

2004-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
sanog cfp srs Original Message Subject: [SANOG] SANOG V - 6 Feb - 13 Feb, 2005, Dhaka, Bangladesh - Call for Presentations Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:36:33 +0800 From: Ananth Nagarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] SANOG V- (South Asia

Re: DDoS attacks...?

2004-11-16 Thread Matthew Sullivan
As a followup for those interested: Matthew Sullivan wrote: Can people make a quick check the for DDoS attacks on 209.220.100.158 in the last 12 hours (to 00:00 17th Nov 2004 GMT+0) - I am trying to get the exact time it appeared to occur, however I suspect it was in the time period of

Re: Cable and Wireless partners with Reliance to set up datacenters in

2004-11-16 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Christopher L. Morrow wrote: reference discussions about blocking VOIP from earlier this week (last week?) gov'ts sometimes are made to put in place dumb laws that can not be enforced in order to intimidate people and try to maintain