Re: UN Panel Aims to End Internet Tug of War by July

2005-02-22 Thread Ross
No government will ever have the internet's best intrest in mind when they talk about controlling it. Luckily government control has been kept some what to a minimum so far but it's growing rapidly and this is another attempt for a government body to "control" the internet. I wonder what new

Re: UN Panel Aims to End Internet Tug of War by July

2005-02-22 Thread Michael . Dillon
> the report itself is linked to from > http://www.itu.int/wsis/wgig/index.html Many of you may find it more interesting and useful to read through and comment upon one or two of the working papers posted here: http://wgig.org/working-papers.html I would hope that people with special expertise

Summary: Fortigate 300A

2005-02-22 Thread Priyantha P Kumara
Thanks for all the responses. (However, I didn't get as much responses as I expected) Here is the summary: Total responses Received: 05 (including one works for a Fortigate competitor and one for a reseller) Comments varies from "very bad product" to "I'm impressed". Certain GUI problems were menti

Re: UN Panel Aims to End Internet Tug of War by July

2005-02-22 Thread Owen DeLong
What if the UN says ITU should run the TLDs, ICANN says yes, and, a significant portion of the operational internet says no? Owen --On Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:53 AM -0800 Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No government will ever have the internet's best interest in mind when they talk about c

Re: NANOG Changes

2005-02-22 Thread Scott Weeks
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Joe Provo wrote: : On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: : > Scott Weeks wrote: : > >On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Gadi Evron wrote: : > > : > >: want to see at this headache of a position, or we do it openly on the : > > : > >Yes, publically. Please. : > : > P

Re: UN Panel Aims to End Internet Tug of War by July

2005-02-22 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> What if the UN says ITU should run the TLDs, ICANN says yes, and, a > significant portion of the operational internet says no? Nothing happened beyond a bit of noise on mailing lists when ICANN did their coup, why should anything happen now? Now ICANN are ramping up their domain tax to fund th

Re: UN Panel Aims to End Internet Tug of War by July

2005-02-22 Thread Deepak Jain
ICANN won't say yes. Now that a new fee for TLD operators goes to ICANN, they won't want to give it up. Simple non-profit business practices. If ITU operates it, they would keep the existing fees and then add a few others. I think we've already seen the bottom in terms of fees to operate a regi

Re: UN Panel Aims to End Internet Tug of War by July

2005-02-22 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 2/22/2005 2:34 PM, Brandon Butterworth wrote: > Now ICANN are ramping up their domain tax to fund the increasing > overhead they are imposing, who will tax less ICANN or ITU? Given that ICANN [probably] won't be doing things like (eg) funding Cuba's state-run proxies and content filters, I'd

Program commitee update

2005-02-22 Thread Steve Feldman
This is a status update on the NANOG program committee. First, I'd like to thank my fellow PC members for selecting me as the interim chair. Our primary task and focus for the next few months will be to ensure the quality of the agenda for the Seattle meeting, while the broader discussions on NA

Corrections: Program committee update

2005-02-22 Thread Steve Feldman
It's been pointed out that my typing skills are somewhat lacking. Aside from the misspelling in the message subject, the alias to reach the program committee should be: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve

Fwd: Call for Nominations to the Public Interest

2005-02-22 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
I usually try not to cross-post, but only do so here because I thought this would be of interest to the NANOG community at-large. FYI, - ferg -- Forwarded Message -- February 21, 2005: Call for Nominations to the Public Interest Registry .ORG Advisory Council The .ORG Advisor

Microsoft WAN Engineer Please contact me off list

2005-02-22 Thread Erik Sundberg
I am have a routing issues with microsoft could a WAN person from microsoft please contact me off list thanks. Thanks Erik =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Erik Sundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Apps Communications 10470 West 164th Place Orland Park, IL 60467 http://www.appscorp.net Phone: 70

Re: Microsoft WAN Engineer Please contact me off list

2005-02-22 Thread Dan Armstrong
I don't think Microsoft _has_ engineers, let alone WAN engineers :-) Erik Sundberg wrote: I am have a routing issues with microsoft could a WAN person from microsoft please contact me off list thanks. Thanks Erik =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Erik Sundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Apps C

Re: Microsoft WAN Engineer Please contact me off list

2005-02-22 Thread Robert M. Enger
At one point, Microsoft employed a number of Internet-savvy folks. Most familiar to me: Tony Hain and Peter Ford. They're quite knowledgeable. MS has deep pockets, and has hired talented folks in many disciplines. It seems reasonable to infer that the chronic problems at MS have their roots at