Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, W.D.McKinney wrote: > > Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > >Perhaps someone will fix it? Where is the route leaking from TWTC in the > >first place? A customer or ? Apparently only 14608 sees it at route-views? > >Is alaska fiberstar listening tonight? a random sample of router

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread W.D.McKinney
Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Randy Bush wrote: more grist for your mill: TWT has a route-server (from traceroute.org's listings) note the age of this route: B192.169.0.0/16 [200/0] via 168.215.52.102, 7w0d i don't get it. this is supposed to be a good thin

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > > more grist for your mill: > > > > TWT has a route-server (from traceroute.org's listings) note the age of > > this route: > > B192.169.0.0/16 [200/0] via 168.215.52.102, 7w0d > > i don't get it. this is supposed to be a good thing. > > am i supposed

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Randy Bush
> more grist for your mill: > > route-server>sho ip route | inc 192.169 > B 66.192.169.0/24 [200/0] via 168.215.52.9, 7w0d > B192.169.41.0/24 [200/0] via 168.215.52.71, 17:33:51 > B192.169.38.0/24 [200/0] via 168.215.52.71, 6d07h > B192.169.4.0/24 [200/0] via 168.215.52.71, 2w4d

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > >> route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bg 192.169.0.0 > >> BGP routing table entry for 192.169.0.0/16, version 51241382 > >> Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table, not > >> advertised to EBGP peer) > >> Not advertised to any peer > >>

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Randy Bush
> So, what'd they say when you called their NOC? not being a customer, i did not call. i wrote to twt and their downstream as listed in arin. no response. i am deeply shocked. randy

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > OrgName:RGnet, LLC > OrgID: RGNETI-1 > Address:5147 Crystal Springs Drive NE > City: Bainbridge Island > > NetRange: 192.169.0.0 - 192.169.1.255 > CIDR: 192.169.0.0/23 > TechHandle: RB366-ARIN > Tec

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > >> route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bg 192.169.0.0 > >> BGP routing table entry for 192.169.0.0/16, version 51241382 > >> Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table, not > >> advertised to EBGP peer) > >> Not advertised to any peer > >

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Randy Bush
>> route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bg 192.169.0.0 >> BGP routing table entry for 192.169.0.0/16, version 51241382 >> Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table, not advertised >> to EBGP peer) >> Not advertised to any peer >> 14608 4323 >> 209.161.175.4 from 209.161.175.

Re: 192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > > route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bg 192.169.0.0 > BGP routing table entry for 192.169.0.0/16, version 51241382 > Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table, not advertised > to EBGP peer) > Not advertised to any peer > 14608 4323 >

OT: Israeli industrial espionage Trojan horse snort sigs

2005-06-03 Thread Gadi Evron
I spent a bit of time thinking about this, and decided this is not off topic due to high interest and worry from list subscribers. Although I am looking wearily at Randy Bush, so I decided to mark it as OT: and max not send such things next time, although this is a rather rare case (publicly anywa

192.169.0.0

2005-06-03 Thread Randy Bush
route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bg 192.169.0.0 BGP routing table entry for 192.169.0.0/16, version 51241382 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table, not advertised to EBGP peer) Not advertised to any peer 14608 4323 209.161.175.4 from 209.161.175.4 (209.161.175.4)

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Joe Maimon
Joe Abley wrote: On 2005-06-03, at 10:26, Andre Oppermann wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it's been a while since I've played with it, but isn't this pretty well what happens with uRPF anyhow? No, my proposal works as long as the customer advertizes their prefixes via BGP,

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Joe Maimon
Pete Templin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is new to me, but I haven't bought any new transit in the past 18 months -- is this common practice on multihomed BGP customers now? I could force things to work by always advertising all my prefixes out to them with the obvious downside o

OT: ISP recommendations in Ontario

2005-06-03 Thread Bill Thompson
I'm looking for recommendations on an ISP with a clue in Ontario, Canada. We need a static IP DSL or T1 in Concord. Please reply off-list. Thanks, -- Bill Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpW8lmdVSDgg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Anyone from Xeex?

2005-06-03 Thread Drew Weaver
Hit me offlist if you’re monitoring.   Thanks, -Drew  

Re: HUMOR: ICANN Announces ".polinc" TLD for politically incorrect and dangerous-opinion sites

2005-06-03 Thread Scott Stursa
Two comments: 1. I enjoyed it 2. It must be nice to have that much free time on your hands - SLS Scott L. Stursa 850/644-2591 Network Security Analyst

HUMOR: ICANN Announces ".polinc" TLD for politically incorrect and dangerous-opinion sites

2005-06-03 Thread william(at)elan.net
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:48:12 -0400 From: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ip ip Subject: [IP] ICANN Announces ".polinc" TLD for politically incorrect and dangerous-opinion sites Begin forwarded message: From: Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: OT: NOC Display's

2005-06-03 Thread Daniel Golding
On a related note, those interested in NOC display technology may also want to check out the recent Wall Street Journal article (sorry, I don't have a link) that suggests that we are about to see a huge drop in large LCD/Plasma display pricing as several new factories are coming on-line. I'm not

Weekly Routing Table Report

2005-06-03 Thread Routing Table Analysis
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 04 Jun, 2005

RE: Load Testing Util

2005-06-03 Thread David Hubbard
Iperf works really well: http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/ It will do tcp/udp/multicast; you can pick the rate on the udp side and the client/server architecture lets you measure jitter, out of order packets, loss, etc. So you could load up a fixed rate of udp and then produce your burst us

Re: Load Testing Util

2005-06-03 Thread trainier
http://directory.fsf.org/System_administration/hookup/tcp/IPSorcery.html "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/03/2005 01:49 PM To nanog@merit.edu cc Subject Load Testing Util Hey all, Does anyone know of a (preferably opensource) t

Load Testing Util

2005-06-03 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
Hey all, Does anyone know of a (preferably opensource) tool that can generate network loads of specific protocols and/or levels (for example, if I wanted to see how much loss I got on a 1 meg spike, over time). I'm hopefully looking for something client/server so I'm not necessarily depende

RE: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Olsen, Jason
> couple prepends, or see if SprintLink supports the use of > communities to control advertisement (you want SprintLink to http://www.sprint.net/policy/bgp.html For those who haven't seen it (and for the archives), they do support communities for tuning some BGP parameters. Go about halfway

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Stephen Stuart
> Am I missing something obvious here? Try announcing the remainder of yopur prefixes with either a couple prepends, or see if SprintLink supports the use of communities to control advertisement (you want SprintLink to prefer the paths they learn from you in case it's strict uRPF, but not pass th

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Pete Templin
Andre Oppermann wrote: No, my proposal works as long as the customer advertizes their prefixes via BGP, not matter how long the path or what community attributes are set (for example NOEXPORT). No matter how they send it, as long as they send it, it works fine. Unlike uRPF which depends on e

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Perhaps a simpler way is to announce your entire allocation and put no-export on things you want to come in your other provider? ^1239$ or perhaps 'no-advertise' and send the same length

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > Perhaps a simpler way is to announce your entire allocation and put > no-export on things you want to come in your other provider? ^1239$ or perhaps 'no-advertise' and send the same length prefixes everywhere... this IS headed down the 1000 ways

OT:ANNOUNCE: MailDroid Spam Fighting MFG/MTA alpha release 0.01

2005-06-03 Thread Geoff White
The MailDroid iso image is ready for download at http://www.maildroid.org. (at 130 MB, we'll try it for a few days to see if we can afford the traffic) MailDroid is a special "distro" of the popular OpenBSD** operating system that is optimized to provide a secure, spam fighting, virus kill

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Joe Abley
On 2005-06-03, at 10:26, Andre Oppermann wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it's been a while since I've played with it, but isn't this pretty well what happens with uRPF anyhow? No, my proposal works as long as the customer advertizes their prefixes via BGP, not matter how lon

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread christian . macnevin
>Why would that work? If I see a /16 from my customer and a /19 from a peer, I will still pick the /19, and strict uRPF should drop any packets from that /19 coming the customer interface, right? Ah yes, I wasn't thinking strict enough indeed :) Good point. This message and any attachment

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 3, 2005, at 9:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At an old transit provider I was at, we had a pig of a time dealing with uRPF. It doesn't like asymmetric routing at all, which is commonplace when you've got customers homed at exchange points for one. I imagine the simplest and most fo

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Andre Oppermann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it's been a while since I've played with it, but isn't this pretty well what happens with uRPF anyhow? No, my proposal works as long as the customer advertizes their prefixes via BGP, not matter how long the path or what community attributes are set (for exampl

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread christian . macnevin
I guess it's been a while since I've played with it, but isn't this pretty well what happens with uRPF anyhow? The asymmetric routing problem is illustrated ascii stylee below. AS1 / ASYOU -AS-OTHERGUY \ / CUSTOMER Say someb

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Pete Templin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is new to me, but I haven't bought any new transit in the past 18 months -- is this common practice on multihomed BGP customers now? I could force things to work by always advertising all my prefixes out to them with the obvious downside of living in fear of my o

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Andre Oppermann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At an old transit provider I was at, we had a pig of a time dealing with uRPF. It doesn't like asymmetric routing at all, which is commonplace when you've got customers homed at exchange points for one. This is why I say there should be a feature that will work like a

RE: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Olsen, Jason
>My network is a multi-homed stub AS and I only announce 5 prefixes. Not much different from many of my networks here, then. > If they're paranoid enough to manually filter my BGP > announcements it's not much more work to manually filter my > source addresses too (nevermind the fact that I a

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread christian . macnevin
At an old transit provider I was at, we had a pig of a time dealing with uRPF. It doesn't like asymmetric routing at all, which is commonplace when you've got customers homed at exchange points for one. I imagine the simplest and most foolproof way around directly connected providers blackholing

Re: URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
not speaking on behalf of sprint... but On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am in the process of turning up a new transit connection with SprintLink. My > network is a multi-homed stub AS and I only announce 5 prefixes. Having the > bright > idea to incrementally move some traffic

Re: OT: NOC Display's

2005-06-03 Thread Chip Mefford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Spencer Wood wrote: > This is kind of off topic, so please feel free to delete if you want > .. > > Anyway, in our NOC we current have two LCD projectors displaying outputs > from two different computers. On one of the display's, I would like to b

The Cidr Report

2005-06-03 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 3 21:45:02 2005 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table Hist

Re: NYSE Trading Halt Triggered by 'Network Storm'

2005-06-03 Thread christian . macnevin
Well, it sounds like it to me. But I won't stay in the way of a good conspiracy theory ;) Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED]@merit.edu - 03/06/2005 12:00 Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Christian MACNEVIN, jgrajewski cc:fergdawg, nanog Subject:Re: NYSE Trading Halt Triggered by 'Net

Re: NYSE Trading Halt Triggered by 'Network Storm'

2005-06-03 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:28:50 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hm. It just sounds like a Tibco nack implosion to me. > > I was wondering if this had anything to do with the common use of multicast to propagate trading information... Regards Marshall > > > > Internet > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

URPF on small BGP-enabled customers?

2005-06-03 Thread will
I am in the process of turning up a new transit connection with SprintLink. My network is a multi-homed stub AS and I only announce 5 prefixes. Having the bright idea to incrementally move some traffic onto the new line I didn't announce all 5 immediately and I localpref'd ^1239$ to get some out

Re: Fwd: NYSE Trading Halt Triggered by 'Network Storm'

2005-06-03 Thread christian . macnevin
Hm. It just sounds like a Tibco nack implosion to me. Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED]@merit.edu - 02/06/2005 21:18 Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:fergdawg cc:nanog Subject:Fwd: NYSE Trading Halt Triggered by 'Network Storm' I dont want join the ranks of conspiracy theorists,