Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On 8/18/2005 2:59 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:44:59AM -0400, Eric A. Hall wrote: > >>On 8/17/2005 10:04 PM, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: >> >>>A new law that's apparently the first in the nation threatens to >>>penalize Internet service providers that fail to w

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 12:19:25AM -0700, William C. Devine II wrote: > Just about all of the ISP's in my area, even those I've worked for, had > a 'disclaimer' on their user agreement that said that some of the local > phone numbers might be long distance and that the user should call the > opera

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > Sounds like the standard notice that all reputable ISPs are probably > already giving. Given the very real potential for grandma and grandpa to > pick a number off a list which looks like it is in their area code and end > up with a multi-thousan

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 04:05:30AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > Sounds like the standard notice that all reputable ISPs are probably > > already giving. Given the very real potential for grandma and grandpa to > > pick a number off a list wh

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On 8/18/2005 3:54 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > I'm not sure which part of "this seems to have nothing to do with toll > scams" wasn't clear the first time around, but this response still seems > to have no basis given the facts... Is the NY AG authorized to regulate other-than "illegal"

Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

Hi, I have a doubt which i am sure a lot of people in this list would be able to help me with. There was news that terror groups like Al Qaida, etc. are using internet to promote their terror links and these web sites provide online training on how one could assemble bombs, etc. The community a

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

Sean, > I assume the NY AG will also be targeting enforcement of Domino's Pizza > because they have lots of phone numbers and consumers may unknowingly dial > a phone number to order a pizza which may be a toll call in their area. Somehow I don't think so. It takes maybe 5 minutes to order a piz

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

Sean, > I assume the NY AG will also be targeting enforcement of Domino's Pizza > because they have lots of phone numbers and consumers may unknowingly dial > a phone number to order a pizza which may be a toll call in their area. Somehow I don't think so. It takes maybe 5 minutes to order a piz

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

Sean, > I assume the NY AG will also be targeting enforcement of Domino's Pizza > because they have lots of phone numbers and consumers may unknowingly dial > a phone number to order a pizza which may be a toll call in their area. Somehow I don't think so. It takes maybe 5 minutes to order a piz

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 04:19:25AM -0400, Eric A. Hall wrote: > > On 8/18/2005 3:54 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > > I'm not sure which part of "this seems to have nothing to do with toll > > scams" wasn't clear the first time around, but this response still seems > > to have no basis gi

Apologies for Triple Post - Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

Apologies on the triple post. Mea Culpa. -- Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator/Consultant Simpli Networks 646.461.6489 direct 208.330.8412 fax www.simplinetworks.com CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged.

RE: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Abhishek Verma > Sent: 18 August 2005 10:20 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS > > > Hi, > > I have a doubt which i am sure a lot of people in this list

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > I assume the NY AG will also be targeting enforcement of Domino's Pizza > > because they have lots of phone numbers and consumers may unknowingly dial > > a phone number to order a pizza which may be a toll call in their area. > > Somehow I don't

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

> Those pennies can add up. And if you have ever called a government > office, you can sometimes spend a long time listening to music on > hold. Does the NY State Goverment warning citizens they may be charged > for phone calls to government offices? I'm not sure if that's the same thing - sinc

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

>> Will this work? > > It would stop them using whichever hostnames you banned but do you really > think this would stop them using the internet. No, that wasnt my point. I just wanted to make sure that my understanding of banning a hostname was indeed correct. We can this way atleast block all

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On 18/08/05, Abhishek Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wanted to know if the arguments of "freedom of speech" etc. apply to > the Internet also, wherein somebody could argue that no central > authority can stop somebody from expressing their thoughts, etc. The EFF on line 1, for you

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On 8/18/05, Abhishek Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The community as a whole wants to close all such web sites. I dont > think there is any ambiguity there. I disagree. There absolutely IS some ambiguity there, the community as a whole does not want to "close all such web sites". It was bad

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> Why not just bring back the "evil bit" as a serious proposal? *waves his cluebat around* ummm. no.

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On Thursday 18 Aug 2005 9:20 am, Abhishek Verma wrote: > > My question is why cant we ban websites like, say, alqaida.com > (hypothetical name), etc. from the whois database. If we, is the US department of commerce, the answer is probably yes. The only operational significance, is that there is

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> > If we, is the US department of commerce, the answer is probably yes. > > The only operational significance, is that there is no way easy way of > estimating in advance the effect of removing valid DNS information from the > system, unless you are the administrator of the system concerned (an

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> It was bad enough back in the '90s when Internic refused to accept > registration of certain four letter words. DNS is not a proper venue > for censoring ideas. Again, I am not discussing "censoring ideas". I want to know if its indeed "tehnically" possible and feasible to block a website URL

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> Okay, so i am not talking about blocking or removing a name server. I > am talking of removing that offending entry (like www.abc.com) from > the whois database or whereever the central database is mantained. on the global internet, i doubt there is anything that does not offend someone. randy

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> Yeps, a sys admin could do that. Sure. But we dont want others also to > see that website. Is it possible by deleting that entery from the > whois database is my question. No - not without some high level intervention at the registry and seeing as they are in the US under US law, it's not ver

Re: What application runs on port 8094?

The situation here is, traffic on the two ports exists continuously. The total load on our egree link sums up to around 3Gbps (max) and 1.6Gbps(min). If both of the traffic is from P2P application, what is it? rebust file transmission over UDP? thanks --- Vulnerability Management <[EMAIL PR

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

>>It was bad enough back in the '90s when Internic refused to accept registration of certain four letter words. DNS is not a proper venue for censoring ideas.<< and the end result is a monopoly http://datapimp.com/ Geo. George Roettger Netlink Services

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

>>Again, I am not discussing "censoring ideas". I want to know if its indeed "tehnically" possible and feasible to block a website URL from being accessed.<< Technically, easy enough to test, open your hosts file and do an entry like 127.0.0.1 www.abc.com it should block it just as if the roo

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> Again, I am not discussing "censoring ideas". then why did you use emotionally loaded words such as "terrorist?" randy

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

coz i assumed that everyone wants to block such sites. sorry if i hurt some feelings. apologies, abhishek On 8/18/05, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again, I am not discussing "censoring ideas". > > then why did you use emotionally loaded words such as "terrorist?" > > randy > >

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

Who's going to judge whether it is good or bad? There is a lot of different point of view, and we couldn't know whether it is good or bad until the website is launching. I don't think this will resolve anything for anti-terrorism. Terrorism is judged by government viewpoint, and they have the

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445

Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > surely you realize that this discussion is not about civil rights > and the constitution, but about combatting terrorists. And we have always been at war with Eastasia. -- PGP key ID E85DC776 - finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full key /:.*posting.googl

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:44:59AM -0400, Eric A. Hall wrote: > > > > > > On 8/17/2005 10:04 PM, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: > > > > > A new law that's apparently the first in the nation threatens to > > > penalize Internet service provider

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Sean Donelan wrote: > On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > Sounds like the standard notice that all reputable ISPs are probably > > already giving. Given the very real potential for grandma and grandpa to > > pick a number off a list which looks like it is i

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 18 01:47:56 2005 > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 02:44:59 -0400 > From: "Eric A. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls > > > > On 8/17/2005 10:04 PM, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: > > > A new law that's ap

RE: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Robert Bonomi > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:43 AM > To: nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls > > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 18 01:47:56 2005 > > D

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

There are actually perfectly valid reasons for not blocking such sites, even if you feel (as I do) that jihadis are the enemies of civilization. Many of these sites are used to transmit data concerning terrorist attacks or for recruitment, etc. Some include forums where supporters can post messa

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

> > Pardon my ignorance, but don't most phone companies require 10 digit dialing > for long-distance. We have similar situations in the rural area I live in, > but the customers know if they dial more than 7 digits, it WILL be long > distance. No. If you are in an overlay area, such as MD, part

RE: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

> *NOT* "other people's fraud". Just when you have > 'intra-LATA' toll charges > for some numbers within a single area-code. If the user is > on one side of > the area-code, and the provider's POP is on the far side of > it, you can have > a what appears to be a 'local' number, that does inc

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445

On Aug 17, 2005, at 11:03 PM, routerg wrote: What if you are a transit provider that serves ebay, yahoo, and/or google and the worm is propogating over TCP port 80? No one is suggesting that anyone suspend reason when making a decision to temporarily, or permanently for that matter, block

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:32:42PM +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: > No, that wasnt my point. I just wanted to make sure that my > understanding of banning a hostname was indeed correct. We can this > way atleast block all websites with *alqaida* domain names. I believe you've mispelt "Al Q'aeda".

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:42:53AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > The CLEC can't tell you (and thus, neither can the ISP) which prefixes are a > 'non-toll' call to their numbeers. And trying to get an authoritative answer > from the ILEC about what charges are to the CLEC's prefix can be _very_

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Abhishek Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Okay, so i am not talking about blocking or removing a name server. I >am talking of removing that offending entry (like www.abc.com) from >the whois database or whereever the central database is mantained. The database y

Re: What application runs on port 8094?

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Aaron Glenn wrote: On 8/17/05, Joe Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Using netflow based monitor tool, I noticed there is a lot of traffic on 8094/UDP and 4662/TCP( both exceed 1Gbps, and exist all the time) What application use that port? Is there any P2P applicati

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

--- Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume the NY AG will also be targeting > enforcement of Domino's Pizza > because they have lots of phone numbers and > consumers may unknowingly dial > a phone number to order a pizza which may be a toll > call in their area. A typical call to Do

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445

On 8/18/05, James Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 17, 2005, at 11:03 PM, routerg wrote: > > > What if you are a transit provider that serves ebay, yahoo, and/or > > google and the worm is propogating over TCP port 80? > > No one is suggesting that anyone suspend reason when making a

RE: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Brian Johnson wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but don't most phone companies require 10 digit dialing > for long-distance. So I signed up for a trial of a spiffy service from RingCentral, who insist that they have numbers local to Victorville/Apple Valley, California, USA.

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

you seem to have a couple of ideas co-mingled. ) whois == dns ... there is zero technical requirement for whois to exist. removing or blocking entries in your whois of choice is trivial and painless. ) URLs map to IP addresses. ... you can or your ISP ca

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

* Abhishek Verma: > There was news that terror groups like Al Qaida, etc. are using > internet to promote their terror links and these web sites provide > online training on how one could assemble bombs, etc. If I were interested in instructions for assembling bombs, I'd look for U.S. militia si

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> Why not just bring back the "evil bit" as a serious proposal? I've recently discovered a useful application for the evil bit: sandboxes for mobile code (think Java applets) can use it to instruct firewalls not to open additional ports just because a client sends a "PORT" command on a port 21/TC

Fwd: zotob - blocking tcp/445

On 8/18/05, James Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 17, 2005, at 11:03 PM, routerg wrote: > > > What if you are a transit provider that serves ebay, yahoo, and/or > > google and the worm is propogating over TCP port 80? > > No one is suggesting that anyone suspend reason when making a >

CESM over IP vendor recommendations

Good Morning, I am looking for recommendations for CESM over IP devices, in particular, for carrying T1 traffic. Please contact me off-list. I will summarize all off-list responses if there is interest. Chris Malayter TDS Telecom - Network Services Data Network Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph

Re: India cites security concerns, blocks Huawei bid to expand their indian ops

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Valdis.Kletni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >--==_Exmh_1124330148_3161P >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> Requesting the source code and/or having access to it is really >> meaningless unless you have the skill and capabilities to compile it >> *and* us

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

Check out http://tor.eff.org. Of particular interest are "hidden services." If you think you can block the use of the Internet... think again. -Jeff -- = Jeffrey I. Schiller MIT Network Manager I

Community Update

All: As per the NANOG Charter, the first Steering Committee meeting, via conference call, was held on August 11th. Randy Bush has been selected to serve as chair. The community can post messages to the SC, via [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steering Committee information, including meeting minutes, is a

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

Abhishek Verma wrote: coz i assumed that everyone wants to block such sites. Bad assumption. After all, terrorist is poorly defined, and from the perspective of a particular government. For example, Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by Israel and the US, but other governments

RE: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David Lesher > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:31 AM > To: nanog list > Subject: Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls > > > > > > Pardon my ignorance, but don't most phone companies req

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445

Andy Johnson wrote: I think the point of many on this list is, they are a transit provider, not a security provider. They should not need to filter your traffic, that should be up to the end user/edge network to decide for themselves. How is this different from a transit provider allowing thei

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Roger Marquis wrote: My question is not what can we do about bots, we already filter these worst case networks, but what can we do to make it worthwhile for bot-providers like NETNET to police their own networks without involving lawyers? Establish and document a history

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445 (fwd)

Resent to address formatting misbehaviour: Source proto dstPort count 62.149.195.129 6 42 13018 203.69.204.250 6 445 12889 213.123.129.237 1 204812693 70.17.255.436 443 12685 217.132.56.139 6 489911056 209.181.111.12 6

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote: > Bad assumption. After all, terrorist is poorly defined, and from the > perspective of a particular government. Interesting you say this, same comes to mind concerning terrorists using so called cryptography simply because an agent of some gov

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445

If you have an offending network that does not respond to abuse/complaints, your best course of action is to no longer communicate with that network. That is your own choice as an end-user/network operator. Complaining to their upstream or transit provider will only get them to switch provid

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445

Roger Marquis wrote: Andy Johnson wrote: I think the point of many on this list is, they are a transit provider, not a security provider. They should not need to filter your traffic, that should be up to the end user/edge network to decide for themselves. How is this different from a trans

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 01:50:08PM +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: > I have a doubt which i am sure a lot of people in this list would be > able to help me with. > > There was news that terror groups like Al Qaida, etc. are using > internet to promote their terror links and these web sites provide

Re: zotob - blocking tcp/445

On 8/18/05, Roger Marquis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy Johnson wrote: > > I think the point of many on this list is, they are a transit > > provider, not a security provider. They should not need to filter > > your traffic, that should be up to the end user/edge network to > > decide for t

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

Thus spake "Robert Bonomi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *NOT* "other people's fraud". Just when you have 'intra-LATA' toll charges for some numbers within a single area-code. If the user is on one side of the area-code, and the provider's POP is on the far side of it, you can have a what appears to be

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

J. Oquendo wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote: Funny thing though, they don't seem to call their sites "spam-king", but instead "opt-in-real-big", or the equivalent. So, we have to examine their binaries to find the sites. ... And how may I ask are you going to

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote: > Apparently, you did Of course, repeated posting here will vastly > improve your opportunity to examine binaries handily delivered directly > to your own email box. ;-) "handily delivered directly to your own email box." I take note of "y

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 18 11:04:41 2005 > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:56:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: David Barak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls > To: Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, nanog@merit.edu > > > > > --- Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

--- Robert Bonomi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A typical call to a dial-up ISP is what, a few > hours? > > Multiple times per month? Accidentally using a > > non-local ISP number can result in a bill in the > > hundreds of dollars pretty easily (also no pizza). > > All true, but *WHY* is th

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On 8/18/05, Daniel Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There are actually perfectly valid reasons for not blocking such sites, even > if you feel (as I do) that jihadis are the enemies of civilization. Enemies of Civilization? The defensive Jihad going on is simply a War on US policies an

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:53:43 -0500 > Thus spake "Robert Bonomi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *NOT* "other people's fraud". Just when you have 'intra-LATA' toll > > charges for some numbers within a single area-code.

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

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Operational: Wiltel Peering with MCI problems around D.C

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Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

Hi, On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 03:54:38AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > To quote the original pasted article: > > > Consumers, however, must act on the warning that Internet providers must > > soon post by contacting their phone companies to find out whether a > > number is truly local. I

Re: Operational: Wiltel Peering with MCI problems around D.C

Would this be affecting MIT, too? I've been noticing some very odd connectivity issues between here (Austin) and the CSAIL at MIT - ferg -- Rich Emmings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone else (Wiltel customers especially) running into an operational issue around D.C. with partial connec

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:47:11 CDT, Robert Bonomi said: > All true, but *WHY* is that 'accidentally dialing a non-local ISP number' > the *ISP's* fault?? Because the ISP gave the number to the user, often accompanied by text that implied that the number provided was an economical way to get connect

Re: Operational: Wiltel Peering with MCI problems around D.C

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 03:41:56PM -0400, Rich Emmings wrote: > > Anyone else (Wiltel customers especially) running into an operational issue > around D.C. with partial connectivity > > It would seem MCI and Wiltel around D.C. have a 'informal' peering > relationship and it's been errored righ

Whois Query Changes in the .ORG Registry, 20 August 2005 (2-day Notice)]

FYI -rick Original Message Subject: [Org-Registrars] Whois Query Changes in the .ORG Registry, 20 August 2005 (2-day Notice) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:47:36 -0400 From: PIR Technical Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Registrars, Please be advised that

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

> Can someone point me to a mailing list that discusses netops? I seem > to have stumbled across the net.kook terrorism rant list by accident. sorry, no. the one i frequent seems to have gone over to the amateur telco lawyers. maybe should we invade a lawyers' list? randy

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > I believe you've mispelt "Al Q'aeda". > > You see the problem. *Especially* with respect to English translations of Arabic names. How many different ways are there to spell Saddam Husein? For that matter, how many different spellings did the media

Re: What application runs on port 8094?

--On August 18, 2005 4:25:53 PM +0200 Lars Erik Gullerud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since the traffic was 8094/UDP it is definitely not BitTorrent, who uses TCP transport. Azureus, a very popular BT client, has a distributed tracker database mechanism, to get around overloaded/unreliabl

Re: Operational: Wiltel Peering with MCI problems around D.C

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: > > Would this be affecting MIT, too? > > I've been noticing some very odd connectivity issues > between here (Austin) and the CSAIL at MIT > I sent rick a note earlier ( 3 mins earlier) but... 3 0.so-5-3-3.XL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.

Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

Title: Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Since when is Internet email reliable?  -Original Message- From:   J. Oquendo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:   Thu Aug 18 14:38:31 2005 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: William Allen Simpson Subject:    Re: Blocking c

Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls

Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > Not unreasonable at all (although personally, I like > the TX-style "all your long distance are 11D, else > 10D" approach). Simple consumer protection, similar > to the Ahem; MD has to me the most viable approach: type: loc

Re: Operational: Wiltel Peering with MCI problems around D.C (resolved)

This issue is resolved. Thanks to all who responsed on and off list. On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Rich Emmings wrote: Anyone else (Wiltel customers especially) running into an operational issue around D.C. with partial connectivity

Re: Fixing DNS Glue

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