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From: Joe Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NANGO
Subject: P2P & Skype traffic control in ISP networks
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:11:42 +0800 (CST)
> it seems some ISPs have started to introduce
> management facilities into their networks. Is those
> products of car
On Nov 10, 2005, at 9:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 07:10:13PM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
reported from tonight's iitf iab (internet archetecture board)
plenary. proclaimed by an esteemed iab member from the podium:
"it is bad in the long term to add hierarchy to
Something to consider about this proposed "regulation"... It is actually
in many ways proposed "deregulation". This bill removes more authority
from the FCC and state and local governments than it grants. It provides
a very minimal framework of regulation, then, except for taxation and
a couple
btw, for another great giggle (many thanks to brian candler
for reporting it)
From the documentation for Cisco's VPN client software for
Linux:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps2308/products_user_guide_chapter09186a0080234617.html
"User profiles [which contain al
Actually, having now read the entire proposed law, I think it is
remarkably reasonable compared to most of what Congress has done
lately.
It sets the regulatory threshold for ISPs and VOIP providers at
a very low level. It preempts most of the local regulations.
It provides for the possibility t
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > oops ;) my point wasn't that bandwidth wasn't necessary over X speed, it
> > was that the main motivator for consumer purchase was no long bandwidth
> > but price alone.
>
> In 1997, Vint Cerf was ad
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> oops ;) my point wasn't that bandwidth wasn't necessary over X speed, it
> was that the main motivator for consumer purchase was no long bandwidth
> but price alone.
In 1997, Vint Cerf was advocating the necessity of usage based pricing
when he
Maybe Bob Braden's presentaion in e2e task group could
do some help.
In fact, they just start to discusss what will be the
next generation architecture, but does not reach
agreement at all.
http://www.isi.edu/~braden/e2e-tf/braden.newarch.ppt
Joe
--- Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> "it is bad in the long term to add hierarchy to routing"
> url for the stream? i -have- to see this ...
reported verbatim separately by two friends who have routing
clue but not enough clue to stay away from the iitf. so you
may just have to wait.
but it will be a classic. if you can get
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 07:10:13PM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> reported from tonight's iitf iab (internet archetecture board)
> plenary. proclaimed by an esteemed iab member from the podium:
>
>"it is bad in the long term to add hierarchy to routing"
>
> this will save a lot of work. whe
reported from tonight's iitf iab (internet archetecture board)
plenary. proclaimed by an esteemed iab member from the podium:
"it is bad in the long term to add hierarchy to routing"
this will save a lot of work. whew!
randy
On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:25 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
most likely... and video-on-demand sorts of things seem like the next
problem child for bandwidth on the local link. (atleast in the
short term)
That's what I believe, too. And along with that, we have people
hungry for incremen
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
>
> On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
>
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> So, there was a time when everyone said 'good grief, what would
> >> anyone do with 1.5mbps', and where in turn engineere
On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
So, there was a time when everyone said 'good grief, what would
anyone do with 1.5mbps', and where in turn engineered bitrates ended
up being several orders of magnitude lower. In fact,
it seems some ISPs have started to introduce
management facilities into their networks. Is those
products of carrier level?
reference:
http://webreprints.djreprints.com/1341970908457.html
Joe
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
>
> So, there was a time when everyone said 'good grief, what would
> anyone do with 1.5mbps', and where in turn engineered bitrates ended
> up being several orders of magnitude lower. In fact, we all were
> worried what would happen to our POPs and b
On Nov 10, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
My fingers are tented... can you see?
indeed I can... the evil empire installed a camera in your monitor.
quick
read: http://tinyurl.com/89v8h
I personally feature The Fez on Fridays. The chix dig it.
The odd thing is that con
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Blaine Christian wrote:
> >>
> >> I have to admit I like this part... It somewhat addresses my concerns
> >> about the monopolies that Chris Morrow and Sean Donelan are
> >> perpetrating on us (just kidding guys...).
> >
> > you are an evil man :)
> >
>
> My fingers are ten
I have to admit I like this part... It somewhat addresses my concerns
about the monopolies that Chris Morrow and Sean Donelan are
perpetrating on us (just kidding guys...).
you are an evil man :)
My fingers are tented... can you see?
Since port 80 and port 25 are lawful services everyon
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > I have to admit I like this part... It somewhat addresses my concerns
> > about the monopolies that Chris Morrow and Sean Donelan are
> > perpetrating on us (just kidding guys...).
>
> you are an evil man :)
Why does this remind me of a Simpso
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Blaine Christian wrote:
>
> On Nov 10, 2005, at 5:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Brett Glass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: November 9, 2005 10:43:40 AM EST
> >
> > Here's the latest draft of the Internet
> > regulation bill, dat
Can you expand a bit on how it dealt with the Level3 meltdown last
month?
In general, it doesn't do anything (much) for this sort of thing. It does
have a "blackhole detection" feature, but keep in mind how this thing works.
You set a prefix length (which must be equal or more specific than
On Nov 10, 2005, at 5:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Brett Glass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: November 9, 2005 10:43:40 AM EST
Here's the latest draft of the Internet
regulation bill, dated November 3rd. Note that, like earlier
versions, it subjects all ISPs and V
Begin forwarded message:
From: Brett Glass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: November 9, 2005 10:43:40 AM EST
Here's the latest draft of the Internet
regulation bill, dated November 3rd. Note that, like earlier
versions, it subjects all ISPs and VoIP providers to intensive
Federal regulation and
Hello...
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 22:12 -0500, Matt Buford wrote:
>
> In general, I'm skeptical that it is really providing much of a performance
> boost. However, it does a good job at balancing traffic levels and that is
> the main value we get from the product. It was basically a "fire an
I am seeing 171K routes from my transits and looks like this has been fixed.
James
Routing and Security Administrator
At the Santa Fe Office: Cyber Mesa Telecom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cybermesa.com/ContactCM
I send a message to my transits (Qwest and Global Crossing) and AT&T. Here
is the message
I got back from AT&T.
James,
We're looking into the situation. We'll get back with you shortly.
Regards,
Angie Eborn
AT&T IP COE
(866) 397-7309, option 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Christopher L Morrow writes:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
>> I noticed a jump from some 171k to almost 175k in the last days, and
>> checked CIDR http://www.cidr-report.org/:
>>
>> > Top 20 Net Increased Routes per Originating AS
>> >
>> > Prefixes Change ASnum A
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
>
> I noticed a jump from some 171k to almost 175k in the last days, and
> checked CIDR http://www.cidr-report.org/:
>
> > Top 20 Net Increased Routes per Originating AS
> >
> > Prefixes Change ASnum AS Description
> > 3263 0->3263
I noticed a jump from some 171k to almost 175k in the last days, and
checked CIDR http://www.cidr-report.org/:
Top 20 Net Increased Routes per Originating AS
Prefixes Change ASnum AS Description
3263 0->3263 AS4151USDA-1 - USDA
so I wonder what's wr
Networks Are Taking Longer
To Repair Despite Focus
On Boosting Reliability
By JESSE DRUCKER and AMY SCHATZ
Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
November 10, 2005; Page B10
Despite a new focus on strengthening traditional U.S. telecommunications
systems to withstand terrorism and natural dis
Matt Buford wrote:
We're looking at possibly purchasing a Internap FCP500,
everything I hear about these boxes is good. We are simultaneously
I have no experience with OER, but I have had a FCP5000 for a while
now. We have numerous transit links, all of which have significantly
more b
On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:49 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Robert Kiessling wrote:
Which rule would you suggest for the IXP? The naive "connect
only routers" wouldn't do of course in nowaday's world of
hybrids.
yick hybrids...
I like watching some of those hybrids boot
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