[Fwd: Re: sober.z to hit tomorrow]

2006-01-05 Thread Wil Schultz
Here is some more interesting information. I'm not positive this is Sober.Z related but it's walking like and talking like a duck. First I see the below DNS requests, shortly after I see many SMTP packets hitting Hotmail, AOL, Yahoo.com, Yahoo.co.uk, Progegy, etc Looks like it's... Sendi

Re: sober.z to hit tomorrow

2006-01-05 Thread Wil Schultz
FYI: I've set some traps on our DNS servers, dunno exactally what this means but I thought that I should share: Jan 5 18:41:09 myServer named[24490]: client X.X.X.X#1192: query: arcor.de IN MX Jan 5 18:45:48 myServer named[24490]: client X.X.X.X#1034: query: freenet.de IN MX These are th

Re: Awful quiet?

2006-01-05 Thread Mans Nilsson
Subject: Awful quiet? Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 12:09:23AM -0800 Quoting Jim Popovitch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I miss the endless debates. Is *everyone* Christmas shopping? > > Here's a thought to ponder > > With the thousands of datacenters that exist with IPv4 cores, what will it > t

Re: net-op: traffic loads as the result of patching

2006-01-05 Thread Gadi Evron
Elijah Savage wrote: Sean Donelan wrote: So, maybe an operational question. What are people seeing as far as network traffic loads due to WMF patching activity, e.g. auto-update and manual downloads? Microsoft has used several CDNs in addition to its own servers to distribute the load in

Re: net-op: traffic loads as the result of patching

2006-01-05 Thread Elijah Savage
Sean Donelan wrote: So, maybe an operational question. What are people seeing as far as network traffic loads due to WMF patching activity, e.g. auto-update and manual downloads? Microsoft has used several CDNs in addition to its own servers to distribute the load in the past. WSUS servers a

Re: net-op: traffic loads as the result of patching

2006-01-05 Thread Gadi Evron
Sean Donelan wrote: So, maybe an operational question. What are people seeing as far as network traffic loads due to WMF patching activity, e.g. auto-update and manual downloads? Microsoft has used several CDNs in addition to its own servers to distribute the load in the past. Most organiza

net-op: traffic loads as the result of patching

2006-01-05 Thread Sean Donelan
So, maybe an operational question. What are people seeing as far as network traffic loads due to WMF patching activity, e.g. auto-update and manual downloads? Microsoft has used several CDNs in addition to its own servers to distribute the load in the past.

Re: WMF Microsoft Patch is out

2006-01-05 Thread Martin Hannigan
> > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Church, Chuck wrote: > > > So rather than finish the testing they wanted to do, they rushed it out? > > Hmmm. Sounds a little scary to me > > Scarier then the architectural decisions they made that led to having > to release this patch? Scarier than using p

RE: WMF Microsoft Patch is out

2006-01-05 Thread andrew2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So rather than finish the testing they wanted to do, they rushed it > out? Hmmm. Sounds a little scary to me The way the SANS folks have been going into hysterics over the vulnerability I'd say there was considerable pressure to get it out the door as soon as hum

RE: WMF Microsoft Patch is out

2006-01-05 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Church, Chuck wrote: So rather than finish the testing they wanted to do, they rushed it out? Hmmm. Sounds a little scary to me Scarier then the architectural decisions they made that led to having to release this patch? -- William Leibzon Elan Networks [EMAIL PROT

RE: WMF Microsoft Patch is out

2006-01-05 Thread Church, Chuck
So rather than finish the testing they wanted to do, they rushed it out? Hmmm. Sounds a little scary to me Chuck From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Dixon Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MS PATCH details plus URL's for download [was: Re: WMF Microsoft Patch is out]

2006-01-05 Thread Gadi Evron
Jerry Dixon wrote: FYI all, the Microsoft Official patch is out for WMF and available via Windows Update. I took this from the funsec list: Larry Seltzer- http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx "Microsoft originally planned to release the update on Tuesday, January 1

WMF Microsoft Patch is out

2006-01-05 Thread Jerry Dixon
FYI all, the Microsoft Official patch is out for WMF and available via Windows Update.Cheers,Jerry

Re: sober.z to hit tomorrow

2006-01-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
I'm sutting PCs down and going on vacation for a while. Seriously. :-) TIA to those of you working to protect your customers and therefore other systems as well. -Jim P. - Original Message From: Wil Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: nanog@merit.edu Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:53

Re: sober.z to hit tomorrow

2006-01-05 Thread Elijah Savage
Wil Schultz wrote: Wouldn't it be fun if it contained the WMF exploit in some form? So, I'm planning on using swatch to monitor DNS requests for the known affected domains. What is everyone else planning to do? -Wil All the popular domains known we have puched out a global rule to our cust

sober.z to hit tomorrow

2006-01-05 Thread Wil Schultz
Wouldn't it be fun if it contained the WMF exploit in some form? So, I'm planning on using swatch to monitor DNS requests for the known affected domains. What is everyone else planning to do? -Wil

Re: WMF patch

2006-01-05 Thread Robert Boyle
At 12:54 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: Thanks Thomas, something really useful. One thing I am still curious about, I read that there were other image formats can be used in an exploit, GIF, .BMP, .JPG, .TIF can also be used, according to F-Secure. I find this a little confusing, if that dll only de

RE: MPLS Providers

2006-01-05 Thread Rump, Bryant
That's sort of a loaded question. Some provider's offerings are good for different reasons/have different strengths. Your best fit would depend on your individual needs. How many sites will you have, and what is your access method and speed preference? Do you need granular QoS from CPE to C

Re: WMF patch

2006-01-05 Thread Eric Frazier
At 01:40 AM 1/5/2006, Thomas Kuehling wrote: Hi Eric Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2006, 08:14 -0800 schrieb Eric Frazier: > Hi, > > I finally decided this was serious enough to do something about it sooner > than the MS patch, but while this seems to be the official link to the SANS > patch http://

MPLS Providers

2006-01-05 Thread Andrew Staples
We're looking at purchasing MPLS services for locations nationwide. Does anyone have personal experiences they'd care to share about providers...the good, the bad, the ugly? I'm not looking for public bashing, just data to differentiate one from another. Any comments or direction appreciated.

Re: [ok] Re: WMF patch

2006-01-05 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Fred Heutte wrote: My observation had more to do with the posturing of the "security" vendors (anti-virus, firewall, IDS, etc.) and the broad range of highly important experts who are all clamoring for attention on this and on all the other everyday security issues out ther

Ilfak's WMF patch

2006-01-05 Thread Gadi Evron
"securiTeam Blogs" posted an interview with Ilfak, the WMF patch author. He explains what it does, and why: http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/176 Just in case some of you don't follow security sources or need another affirmation - I know Ilfak and he is trusted. He is a Good Gu

Re: WMF patch

2006-01-05 Thread Alexander Harrowell
Indeed. It's the security equivalent of "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" - perhaps we could reformulate that as "the users can remain clueless longer than your business can survive the DDOS"On 1/5/06, Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 20

Re: WMF patch

2006-01-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 05:58:16PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 46 lines which said: > How many times do you propose we FTDT before we get fed up and ask > upper management to authorize a migration to some other software > with a better record? And how many m