Wouldn't a well-operated network of IRRs used by 95% of
network operators be able to meet all three of your
requirements?
We have such a database (used by Verio and others), but the Panix
incident
happened anyway due to bit rot. We've got to find a way to fix the
layer 8
problems
Perhaps people should stop trying to have these
operational discussions in the IETF and take the
discussions to NANOG where network operators gather.
We have tried, of course; see, for example, NANOG 28 (Salt Lake City).
There was no more consensus at NANOG than in the IETF...
One attempt
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 09:48:13AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wouldn't a well-operated network of IRRs used by 95% of
network operators be able to meet all three of your
requirements?
We have such a database (used by Verio and others), but the Panix
incident
happened
Wouldn't a well-operated network of IRRs used by 95% of
network operators be able to meet all three of your
requirements?
Maybe I missed something, but didn't Verio say the prefix was in
their internal registry, and that's why it was accepted.
IOW: It didn't solve this problem. So
the scheme that josh karlin has been advocating in pretty good bgp
involved only supressing a doubtful announcement when you have a
better, more trusted announcement.
Not a doubtful announcement, a novel announcement. Not a better
announcement, a more usual announcement. The trust part, like
sandy,
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 08:29:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the scheme that josh karlin has been advocating in pretty good bgp
involved only supressing a doubtful announcement when you have a
better, more trusted announcement.
Not a doubtful announcement, a novel
As we roll out a new network, on one of our links it is remarkably cheaper
to run a T1 ptp vs. MPLS (running 66% data, 33% voice). Based on comments
received from this list (much thanks, you know who you are) MPLS
satisfaction seems to be determined by backbone noc competence, not the
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Andrew Staples wrote:
As we roll out a new network, on one of our links it is remarkably cheaper
to run a T1 ptp vs. MPLS (running 66% data, 33% voice). Based on comments
received from this list (much thanks, you know who you are) MPLS
satisfaction seems to be determined
This FAQ was authored by members of the TISF BlackWorm task force
(specifically the MWP / DA groups and the SANS ISC handlers).
The purpose is both to provide with a resource for concerned users and
network administrators, as well as to be a level-headed myth-free source
on the subject.
The FAQ can be found at:
http://isc.sans.org/blackworm
http://blogs.securiteam.org
That's http://blogs.securiteam.com
My apologies, and thanks to all those who notified me.
Gadi.
Looking for a Comcast contact.
Please reply off-list.
Jeff.
Please see the file.
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