Re: Middle Eastern Exchange Points

2006-02-09 Thread Michael . Dillon
> > You keep saying EMIX > > and you're confusing me. Peering or no? "IX" naturally insinuates > > yes regardless of neutrality. > > Exactly. "IX" as a component of a name is _intended to insinuate_ the > availability of peering, _regardless of whether that's actually true or > fal

Re: Password Security and Distribution

2006-02-09 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, Embarassingly late reply; I've been away. On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 10:48:45AM -0500, Jeremy Stinson wrote: > We are in the need for a better mechanism for sharing passwords between our > engineers. Most of these passwords are for our client's systems where some > of them are controlling

Re: Middle Eastern Exchange Points

2006-02-09 Thread Joe Abley
On 9-Feb-2006, at 02:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But back to EMIX. Maybe they do not offer any peering today but is it true that they actively prohibit any companies with routers at EMIX from peering? There is no "at EMIX". EMIX is an ISP, AS 8966, with network connecting various cities i

Re: AT&T (AS7018) customer triggered blackhole routing?

2006-02-09 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, A Satisfied Mind wrote: Does anyone know if AT&T (the old one, AS7018) has customer trigged blackhole routing? I looked in the copy of the BGP policy I have from 04/2005, and see nothing about it, and cannot find the updated online version. I really doubt it. Last time

Re: Middle Eastern Exchange Points

2006-02-09 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In hindsight, it would have been clearer to refer to these > places as peering exchanges however back in those days, the important > distinction wasn't between peering and transit. There was a significant effort from 2001 to distingu

Re: AT&T (AS7018) customer triggered blackhole routing?

2006-02-09 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Jon Lewis wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, A Satisfied Mind wrote: > > > Does anyone know if AT&T (the old one, AS7018) has customer trigged > > blackhole routing? I looked in the copy of the BGP policy I have > > from 04/2005, and see nothing about it, and cannot find the up

announcing IXP mailing list in LAC region

2006-02-09 Thread Ricardo Patara
Hello, I'm just forwarding an announcement that might be in of the interest of this community. Ricardo -- LACNIC http://LACNIC.NET In preparation for the 5th Latin America Regional IXPs Meeting to be held within the framework of LACNIC IX on May 23, 2006, in the City of Guatemala, and with t

XO opinions

2006-02-09 Thread Matt Hess
I'd like to get opinions from people using XO's voip services as well as opinions on any customer service they received for whatever service they had from XO.. offlist replies would probably be best for all.

Re: announcing IXP mailing list in LAC region

2006-02-09 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ricardo Patara) [Thu 09 Feb 2006, 17:28 CET]: I'm just forwarding an announcement that might be in of the interest of this community. What is that mailing list's main language? Judging from the archives, no posting so far has been in English. -- Niels.

another exchange in Cairo

2006-02-09 Thread Joe Abley
At the risk of perpetuating a thread that arguably should have died some days ago, someone without a nanog-post subscription reminded me of GPX, who have plans to being an exchange point live in Egypt (amongst other places). http://www.gpx.ie/ No association, knowledge or endorsement i

Re: announcing IXP mailing list in LAC region

2006-02-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
You may guess ... Is Spanish, but English should be welcome ! Regards, Jordi > De: Niels Bakker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fecha: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 18:19:47 +0100 > Para: Ricardo Patara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: "nanog@merit.edu" > Asunto: Re: announcing IXP maili

Re: announcing IXP mailing list in LAC region

2006-02-09 Thread Ricardo Patara
it is in spanish. But posts in English are accepted and will be well understood by participants. And, when necessary, discussions in English can be held as well. ricardo -- LACNIC http://LACNIC.NET On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:19:47PM +0100, Niels Bakker wrote: | | * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ricardo

Re: Middle Eastern Exchange Points

2006-02-09 Thread h k
On 2/7/06, Bill Woodcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Joe Abley wrote:> I would not be surprised if the toplogical centre of today's African> Internet turned out to be the LINX.Yep, with 111 8th close behind. Most of the African ISPs connect into 118th and the LINX.A

NOC contact at OLM?

2006-02-09 Thread Kevin
Can anybody help me with a NOC or SOC contact for OLM? It appears OLM.Net is blocking all traffic from some/all of my employer's network space as it enters their network, including DNS lookup of domains hosted on fastdns.net and sylint.com. The last IP seen on traceroutes is 4.68.97.40 or other

SPAM Level Status - And why not stop the peering with lame ISPs

2006-02-09 Thread Alain Hebert
Is it just me or the level of spam coming from ASIA (region) has just increased 10 fold in the past week? And naturally abuse emails are left unanwsered. - I could see Peer stopping annoncement of the routes of ISP's that do not comply with abuse (I mean high volume of abuse h

Re: another exchange in Cairo

2006-02-09 Thread Kim Onnel
Funny that i live in Egypt, i work in the field and i've spent the last three days at ICT (information and comm. tech.) conference and did not hear of that, but i'd love to see it working, our past experiences with peering were very small and not effective, it started with CRIX and ended with CAIX

Re: another exchange in Cairo

2006-02-09 Thread Randy Bush
> As alot of other developing countries, peering is established on personal > relationships, and even with that it doesnt work well, because both parties > couldnt agree on routing policies or even personal disliking(pathetic) luckily, this kind of thing never happens in north america

Re: SPAM Level Status - And why not stop the peering with lame ISPs

2006-02-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 2/10/06, Alain Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That new bunch of spam is hard to tag on digest alone... And I dont > believe in regexing the content to see if a url is listed (too many > false positive). > Then you're doing it wrong. And you'd discover for yourself that its a dumb mov

Re: SPAM Level Status - And why not stop the peering with lame ISPs

2006-02-09 Thread Charles Cala
--- Alain Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it just me or the level of spam coming from ASIA (region) has > just increased 10 fold in the past week? (snip) it comes and goes like the wind, and the tides. > I could see Peer stopping annoncement of the routes of ISP's that >

Re: SPAM Level Status - And why not stop the peering with lame ISPs

2006-02-09 Thread Alain Hebert
Should have been clearer, most of the abuse emails I send to ISP's operating in the APNIC are ineffective. (Well it compares to local tyrant like MaBell or Cable Distributor) Maybe they dont put any priority into what a "small ISP in Montreal" think because the relation between the A

Re: SPAM Level Status - And why not stop the peering with lame ISPs

2006-02-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 2/10/06, Alain Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For APNIC, we also includes all their peers up-to (if possible) to a > ARIN one. But we only do that on extreme case of network flooding. > (No sense on wasting operator time on spam related incidents) > I agree you have a problem th

Re: SPAM Level Status - And why not stop the peering with lame ISPs

2006-02-09 Thread Alain Hebert
Hi, Yes, those are already in place and do a really good job (about 40% from the daily stats). Another 40% get caught by razor, pyzor, our own local spam election database and spamassassin. (less than 1% are viruses) Its the other 20% which is buggin the hell of our clients...

Re: SPAM Level Status - And why not stop the peering with lame ISPs

2006-02-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 2/10/06, Alain Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Its the other 20% which is buggin the hell of our clients... > (Mostly New spam format and the dynamic spam with generated images) > Try a few of the cheaper tricks - HELO checks, for example, or greetpause (I'd say graylisting but that h

Bringing spouse/significant other to Dallas for NANOG?

2006-02-09 Thread brokaw price
If you're considering bringing your sweetie to NANOG and you're worried about how she might not be so keen on 4 days of acronyms and alphabet soup, this link might come in handy! http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0602/valentines.html We're looking forward to seeing everyone in Dallas. Cheers, -- Brokaw

Re: SPAM Level Status - And why not stop the peering with lame ISPs

2006-02-09 Thread Mark Foster
Most ARIN ISP's also take it somewhat seriously (legal issues and such)... Except for those big ones, big lawyers thrump reality/truth anytime. Asiapac ISPs have a rather worse problem but well - theyre not the only ones. -- Yes. Especially when people outside of the Asia-Pac region

Re: Middle Eastern Exchange Points

2006-02-09 Thread Martin Hannigan
At 11:08 AM 2/9/2006, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In hindsight, it would have been clearer to refer to these > places as peering exchanges however back in those days, the important > distinction wasn't between peering and transit. There

Re: Bringing spouse/significant other to Dallas for NANOG?

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Loftis
--On February 9, 2006 11:49:55 PM -0600 brokaw price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you're considering bringing your sweetie to NANOG and you're worried about how she might not be so keen on 4 days of acronyms and alphabet soup, this link might come in handy! http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0602/v