On 5/11/06, Robert Bonomi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If we can coral them in it and legislate to have no porn anywhere
> else than on .xxx ... should fix the issue for the prudes out there.
And _that_ is *precisely* "why not".
There have been at least three generations of proposals for
On Friday 12 May 2006 23:47, Barry Shein wrote:
>
> > The namespace *was* flat, once. That didn't scale, and not just
> > because of technical limitations -- the fact that there are only so
> > many useful combinations of 26 letters in a relatively short name had
> > some weight in there too.
> > But there's no technical advantage of a hierarchical system over a
> > simple hashing scheme, they're basically isomorphic other than a hash
> > system can more easily be tuned to a particular distribution goal.
>
> Amazing how many experienced people seem to be saying this isn't
possible,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But there's no technical advantage of a hierarchical system over a
simple hashing scheme, they're basically isomorphic other than a hash
system can more easily be tuned to a particular distribution goal.
Amazing how many experienced people seem to be saying this isn't
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Dambier) [Mon 15 May 2006, 11:11 CEST]:
Both Rendezvous and Bonjour are working.
They are the same thing. Rendezvous got renamed Bonjour after a
trademark dispute. See http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=891
There is an incompatible version from Microsof
Hi all,
Can any of you please recommend some IP-to-geo mapping database / web service ?
I would like to get resolution down to city if possible.
Thanks and Regards,
-ashe
GeoIP - http://www.maxmind.com/geoip/
Ashe Canvar wrote:
Hi all,
Can any of you please recommend some IP-to-geo mapping database / web
service ?
I would like to get resolution down to city if possible.
Thanks and Regards,
-ashe
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AC> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 09:35:47 -0700
AC> From: Ashe Canvar
AC> Can any of you please recommend some IP-to-geo mapping database / web
AC> service ?
AC>
AC> I would like to get resolution down to city if possible.
Many people would.
Don't hope for much better than country granularity -- and
On 5/15/06, Ashe Canvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,
Can any of you please recommend some IP-to-geo mapping database / web service ?
I would like to get resolution down to city if possible.
The gold standard is MaxMind GeoIP. http://www.maxmind.com/
There are a couple "free" ones I'v
scam_snake_oil_etc
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Alain Hebert wrote:
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:GeoIP - http://www.maxmind.com/geoip/
:
:Ashe Canvar wrote:
:
:>
:> Hi all,
:>
:> Can any of you please recommend some IP-to-geo mapping database / web
:> service ?
:>
:> I would like to get resolution down to city if possible.
:>
At 12:49 PM 5/15/2006, Brian Wallingford wrote:
scam_snake_oil_etc
How so?
-M<
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Quova seems to be the premier service: http://www.quova.com/
I read a story on them some time ago and I was left with the impression that
all the other players are rookies, but then again, you probably will pay
heavily for this service.
Geobytes is another one I've played with.
We're a small I
I'm not quite comfortable with the idea of building a market audience
based on data with at best dubious accuracy.
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Martin Hannigan wrote:
:At 12:49 PM 5/15/2006, Brian Wallingford wrote:
:
:> scam_snake_oil_etc
:
:
:How so?
It works for spammers.
- billn
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Brian Wallingford wrote:
I'm not quite comfortable with the idea of building a market audience
based on data with at best dubious accuracy.
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Martin Hannigan wrote:
:At 12:49 PM 5/15/2006, Brian Wallingford wrote:
:
:>
Thanks for all your replies. I came across
http://www.hostip.info/use.html, which looks good, at least from a
API/ ease of use prespective.
So how would the illustrious people on nanog solve the folowing issue:
+ PHB walks into my office and asks for a global distribution of my
500K customers.
Well,
I'm sure that everybodies here understand that the city databases
cannot be accurate more than 50%.
The way we disperse static IP on commercial accounts there is not
way they can figure out where the destination is.
The last best guest will be the peer router before my ro
IP location services are a niche service, they won't work in the broad sense of things. Sites that need to make lawyers happy, such as MLB.com will work well with IP location services. MLB.Com basically says they won't broadcast Dodger home games in the LA area on their website. (Or any team in the
On Mon, 15 May 2006 13:14:41 EDT, Bill Nash said:
> It works for spammers.
Certainly explains all the Turkish spam I get, what with me being
just outside Ankara and all.
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At 01:56 PM 5/15/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2006 13:14:41 EDT, Bill Nash said:
> It works for spammers.
Certainly explains all the Turkish spam I get, what with me being
just outside Ankara and all.
That's likely because they are attempting to do some sort
of location an
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ashe
Canvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Thanks for all your replies. I came across
http://www.hostip.info/use.html, which looks good, at least from a
API/ ease of use prespective.
I just tried that, says I'm 100 miles south of where I really am. That's
quite a
At 03:56 PM 5/15/2006, Alexander Harrowell wrote:
This is a frequent source of silly news stories - viz. the recent
one, based on Google Trends, that Birmingham (UK) is the "top city"
for porn searches and Brentford (UK) in the top five despite being a
small suburb of London. Reason: both are
Hostip.info is so bad... One can find the exact location of my ip in the
ripe-database and the tool doesn't get it. It claimed that I'm in some sort
of 100souls small town altough I'm living in a major city. And hey: I was
using an ip out of a hoster's block - not a dialup or something like that.
The NSA was granted a patent for an IP geo-location technology based on
triangulation using latency measures. We played around with a similar approach
using UDP several years ago and you could triangulate to the zip code level or
so. A better way I think than the current approaches being dis
Yeap,
I'm moron. You didn't know it yet?
-
Come on...
"The way we disperse static IP" ain't imagination, its fact... We
spread a /20 on dynamic dialup and dsl over 2 provinces and since most
of the residential services is build like this you cannot get a read of
where that
At 05:36 PM 5/15/2006, Alain Hebert wrote:
Yeap,
I'm moron. You didn't know it yet?
I already mentioned the NTP thread. Let's not relive it.
There are some facts:
1. Geo location is a real application
2. There are multiple methods for obtaining the location (accuracy varies)
3. I
RP> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:05:35 +0100
RP> From: Roland Perry
RP> I just tried that, says I'm 100 miles south of where I really am. That's
RP> quite a long way out in a small country like England.
Home cable returned "haven't got a clue".
I tried a couple other netblocks that returned diffe
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:24:48 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The NSA was granted a patent for an IP geo-location technology based
on triangulation using latency measures.
It could probably be foiled by this patented technology:
http://www.tinyurl.com/ebu6t
which is equally reliab
AH> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:24:13 +0100
AH> From: Alexander Harrowell
AH> [W]hen the path is [...] it won't be quite that clear.
Exactly. It's a bit different than triangulating cell towers based on
signal strength.
Since when does the NSA patent things, anyhow? I'd think they would
keep se
On May 15, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Alain Hebert wrote:
Yeap,
I'm moron. You didn't know it yet?
-
Come on...
"The way we disperse static IP" ain't imagination, its fact...
We spread a /20 on dynamic dialup and dsl over 2 provinces and
since most of the residential services
Google's available geolocation resources are much more direct: They can
get the information directly from the user. Google mail users setting
location information, google home page users setting weatherbug details,
common location searches in google maps, or local business directory
searches
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 15 17:42:13 2006
> From: Kevin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Geo location to IP mapping
> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:40:23 -0500
>
> We use a Geo/IP location database. It's surprisingly accurate, with a
> few exceptions.
>
[[ sneck ]]
>
> Comparing the
Hi,
(In a more precise manner)
I originaly stated that below country (aka, province/state, city,
zip, etc) it wont be very reliable because in my experience we spread
that /20 without the hierarchy you expect.
Meaning:
. We have subnets on LanEx going outside the city, province/st
I seriously doubt this would work to better than the regional area.
My zip code (20124) region is about 5 km across, which would be 15
microseconds in vacuum, and
maybe at most 50 micro seconds in glass. So, you would need
accuracies at the 10's of microsecond level to specify zip codes.
I
On Mon, 15 May 2006 21:49:31 -0400, Marshall Eubanks
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I seriously doubt this would work to better than the regional area.
>
> My zip code (20124) region is about 5 km across, which would be 15
> microseconds in vacuum, and
> maybe at most 50 micro seconds in glas
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Roland Perry wrote:
> > http://www.hostip.info/use.html, which looks good, at least from a
> > API/ ease of use prespective.
>
> I just tried that, says I'm 100 miles south of where I really am. That's
> quite a long way out in a small country like E
Edward B. DREGER wrote:
Since when does the NSA patent things, anyhow? I'd think they would
keep secret anything that's actually effective.
They are handing out "technology transfer program" leaflets in
tradeshows now.
Pete
At 10:55 PM 15-05-06 -0700, Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Roland Perry wrote:
> > http://www.hostip.info/use.html, which looks good, at least from a
> > API/ ease of use prespective.
>
> I just tried that, says I'm 100 miles south of where I really am.
That's
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