What just happened at One Wilshire?

2006-07-13 Thread David Temkin
Anyone have any further info?

RE: www.gigablast.com

2006-07-13 Thread Bill Woodcock
> What gigablast seems to be doing, on the other hand, is trying to open > every window in a house in the hopes that it will find one that's open. Just looking at the text strings in the URLs, my off-the-top-of-my-head guess was that those were URLs it saw in email spam. They looked v

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Barry Shein
On July 13, 2006 at 13:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Payne) wrote: > > > On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Joe Greco wrote: > > > I don't really think it is entirely appropriate that a child who is > > looking > > for information on the White House could land somewhere obscene > > through

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Joe Greco
> On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Joe Greco wrote: > > I don't really think it is entirely appropriate that a child who is > > looking > > for information on the White House could land somewhere obscene > > through > > entering a web address that appears obvious and logical. > > Who gets to dec

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread ennova2005-nanog
Divining user intent is better handled in the user application where such intent was stated rather than in the infrastructure (DNS)If the service wants  to help (human) users find their way to the web sites they "intended" to get to .. isn't a better solution the one already offered by many search

RE: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Joe Greco: > I don't really think it is entirely appropriate that a child > who is looking for information on the White House could land > somewhere obscene through entering a web address that appears > obvious and logical. Personally, I don't really think it is entirely appropriate that a chi

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Ken Eddings
At 12:32 PM -0400 7/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:48:55 EDT, "Patrick W. Gilmore" said: >> >> On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Larry Smith wrote: >> >> >> Is it? If you type "fobar" and the domain does not exist, is it rude >> >> to return foobar? Or is it helpful? >> > >>

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread John Payne
On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Joe Greco wrote: I don't really think it is entirely appropriate that a child who is looking for information on the White House could land somewhere obscene through entering a web address that appears obvious and logical. Who gets to decide that?

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:48:55 EDT, "Patrick W. Gilmore" said: > > On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Larry Smith wrote: > > >> Is it? If you type "fobar" and the domain does not exist, is it rude > >> to return foobar? Or is it helpful? > > > > Hmmm, while a "good" question - how about another exampl

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Joe Greco
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Mark Jeftovic wrote: > > Larry Smith wrote: > > > > > In > > > school if you spell the word tree as tre - hopefully your teacher corrects > > > this. > > > > Yes, hopefully a correction is made in a safe manner. As opposed to the > > teacher smothering your face with a porno

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Peter Corlett
On 13 Jul 2006, at 16:48, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Larry Smith wrote: [...] Hmmm, while a "good" question - how about another example, someone mistypes whitehouse.gov - do you return the "real" whitehouse.gov or the whitehouse.com site ??? Note: "and the domai

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > just as your > > teacher would by allowing you to mis-spell words instead of > > learning the > > correct way > > I think that's going a bit far. > > By that token, we should lobby Microsoft to take spel chickers out of > MS Word. we should

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Mark Jeftovic wrote: > Larry Smith wrote: > > > In > > school if you spell the word tree as tre - hopefully your teacher corrects > > this. > > Yes, hopefully a correction is made in a safe manner. As opposed to the > teacher smothering your face with a pornographic magazine

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher L. Morrow) [Thu 13 Jul 2006, 16:55 CEST]: So If grandma Jane goes to fobar.com (which gets corrected/redirected/blah) to foobar.com and sees some content she really likes she may tell grandma June. Grandma June goes to fobar.com and gets the IE error message sa

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Larry Smith wrote: Is it? If you type "fobar" and the domain does not exist, is it rude to return foobar? Or is it helpful? Hmmm, while a "good" question - how about another example, someone mistypes whitehouse.gov - do you return the "real" whitehouse.gov or

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Mark Jeftovic
Larry Smith wrote: In school if you spell the word tree as tre - hopefully your teacher corrects this. Yes, hopefully a correction is made in a safe manner. As opposed to the teacher smothering your face with a pornographic magazine or shoving a lit firecracker up your ass. Cause whe

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Larry Smith
On Thursday 13 July 2006 10:18, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > >> That said, no one has yet said why it is necessary, or even > >> desirable, to have a completely homogenous view of the wor

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: That said, no one has yet said why it is necessary, or even desirable, to have a completely homogenous view of the world. I'd use one example reason of why: "Customer Service issues" T

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > That said, no one has yet said why it is necessary, or even > desirable, to have a completely homogenous view of the world. > I'd use one example reason of why: "Customer Service issues" So If grandma Jane goes to fobar.com (which gets correc

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Chris Woodfield
Going off on something of a tangent, I'd be really curious what sort of efforts OpenDNS are making/will need to make in order to limit their servers' utility as a relay for amplification attacks (which I'm listening to a discussion on at IETF as I type). http://www.ietf.org/internet-draft

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 13, 2006, at 3:39 AM, Simon Waters wrote: Most of those I know try to deploy recursive services as close as possible to the client, avoiding where possible alternative views of the DNS, and forwarding. Would that everyone did what the people you know do. Unfortunately, there are a f

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-13 Thread Simon Waters
On Wednesday 12 Jul 2006 18:35, David Ulevitch wrote: > On Jul 12, 2006, at 12:30 AM, Simon Waters wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 Jul 2006 20:22, Daniel Golding wrote: > >> I'm at a loss to explain why people are > >> trying so hard to condemn something like this. > > > > Experience? > > People have nev