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Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco Guard Enables Cross Site Scripting
Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20060920-guardxss
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20060920-guardxss.shtml
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For Public Release 2006 September 20 1600 UTC (GMT
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NANOG Community,
The issue of altering the NANOG Archive has come up and I wish to
present Merit's position on the matter.
The NANOG Acceptable Use Policy as it currently stands includes the
following:
1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 02:02:52PM -0400, Don Welch, Merit Network wrote:
something in HTML that i can not parse...
care to repost in a format that is readable?
--bill
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
something in HTML that i can not parse...
care to repost in a format that is readable?
Bill, it's really time for you to upgrade from UCB Mail to Pine. Those of
us who've gotten with the program and upgraded to 1990's software
Don Welch, Merit Network wrote:
This issue is unique and does not represent a blanket policy. Any
request to modify the archive is a serious issue that requires
consultation with the Steering Committee and must be balanced against
the loss of archive integrity.
Right here is the heart of
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 11:14:27AM -0700, Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
something in HTML that i can not parse...
care to repost in a format that is readable?
Bill, it's really time for you to upgrade from UCB Mail to Pine.
you sent html as opposed to an email message. as i do not use a web browser
to read mail, i can not read your message. if you want me to read your
email, send email.
randy
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:02:52 -0400
From: Don Welch, Merit Network [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Betty
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 11:14:27AM -0700, Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
something in HTML that i can not parse...
care to repost in a format that is readable?
Bill, it's really time for you to upgrade from UCB Mail to
NANOG Community,
The issue of altering the NANOG Archive has come up and I wish to
present Merit's position on the matter.
The NANOG Acceptable Use Policy as it currently stands includes the
following:
1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues as
described in
you sent html as opposed to an email message. as i do not use a web browser
to read mail, i can not read your message. if you want me to read your
email, send email.
yikes. sorree.
randy
Sorry to send this here, (really, really, sorry), but does anybody know any
cluefull techie or CSR types at BroadVoice?
I've pretty much tried everything I can to get through to them but after 90
minutes on hold, and after having a working account munged by the CSR to
the point where it's no
I too despise HTML, but in a failing effort to find email useful, I use
a reader that converts HTML to text for me (it is amazing what computers
can do these days).
Here is the result of my reader's handiwork.
Original Message
Subject:Re: Removal of my name
Date:
An e-mail message *can* in fact, be HTML, as HTML is a text payload
like any other.
It's not his (or the world's) fault your MUA is locked into 1982 mode
and won't process the tags that are included in it.
Cheers,
D
On Sep 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
you sent html as
An e-mail message *can* in fact, be HTML, as HTML is a text payload
like any other.
Perhaps he was saying he won't spend the time looking for information
amongst html tags. Sure you can send html, it's just not nice for the
reader.
It's not his (or the world's) fault your MUA is locked
An e-mail message *can* in fact, be HTML, as HTML is a text payload like any
other.
It's not his (or the world's) fault your MUA is locked into 1982 mode and
won't process the tags that are included in it.
Cheers,
D
On Sep 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
you sent html
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 02:59:47PM -0400, Derek J. Balling wrote:
An e-mail message *can* in fact, be HTML, as HTML is a text payload
like any other.
Yes, and for those, one may use:
/etc/mailcap:text/html; lynx %s; print=lynx -dump %s | lp
But for some reason, that particular message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More to the point, why punish the entire list by bickering about a
minority
Because this is NANOG, and NANOG is very careful to limit the traffic to
stuff that is On Topic.
--
Requiescas in pace o email
Ex turpi causa non oritur actio
i suspect the html non-email issue has been discussed a bit in the past.
but perhaps folk can not find the previous discussion because it has
been removed from the archive :).
so, since we need to relive it, perhaps we should do so over on
nanog-futures.
but there are a couple of more
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 02:59:47PM -0400, Derek J. Balling wrote:
An e-mail message *can* in fact, be HTML, as HTML is a text payload
like any other.
BTW, for mutt, you might try
In .mailcap:
text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput;
On 9/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More to the point, why punish the entire list by bickering about a
minority inability to cope with the fact that some people are different?
It's because some MUAs are dain bramaged.
The world has more than eight bits.
Which is just
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hrmm
How many of you realize who Bill Manning is ?
While you are at it, go flame Vinton Cerf... I am sure he
will learn from you, too..
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Todd Vierling wrote:
On 9/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More to the point, why punish the entire list by bickering about a
minority inability to cope with the fact that some people are different?
It's because some MUAs are dain bramaged.
The
Thanks. Much easier.
--bill
Which is just one of the reasons that the MIME type
multipart/alternative exists.
mime codifies, not bridges, incompatibility
randy
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:23:46 EDT, Todd Vierling said:
Which is just one of the reasons that the MIME type
multipart/alternative exists. Sane MUAs that wish to send HTML also
send a text/plain alternative segment in the same MIME stream.
Vernon Schreyer made a very good point years ago that
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The world has more than eight bits. The community at large (read: me)
does
not care if someone has been left out because they *chose* to be or lacks
the ability or wherewithal to adapt. In short: Technical snobbery is not
operational. It took
I can understand that. The point I'm trying to make, is why does Randy
Bush *need* to make this a community problem, instead of talking
directly
to the user whose mail he cannot read?
perhaps in your haste to rant on you missed my message apologizing for
doing so?
randy
On Sep 20, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Richard Irving wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hrmm
How many of you realize who Bill Manning is ?
While you are at it, go flame Vinton Cerf... I am sure he
will learn from you, too..
I have known Bill for years, and respect him for a lot of
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 07:05:04PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Sep 20, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Richard Irving wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hrmm
How many of you realize who Bill Manning is ?
yup.. i do. he's a wizzend, cynical, troll (may or may not
be
/signalnoise
That said, I admit I probably hesitate a bit longer before flaming
Dr. Cerf. :) If you've ever met them both, you would understand why.
I have, on more than one occasion. My old address was @onecall.net
Perhaps you saw our cars in the Indy 500 ?
Vint does present
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 05:04:53PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:23:46 EDT, Todd Vierling said:
Which is just one of the reasons that the MIME type
multipart/alternative exists. Sane MUAs that wish to send HTML also
send a text/plain alternative segment in the
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From: Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does any fiber run into Zimbabwe? Or is everything via
satellite?
Remember the (proposed? built?) circum-Africa oceanic
cable, with drops to each (coastal) country? Avoid the
politics and instability of
Gadi Evron wrote:
On another level, Brazil which is now introduced to the broadband
revolution has many of the massive security issues impacting the Internet,
much like Israel used to have when we underwent the Internet revolution.
Heh. We do indeed have lots of windows zombies on the DSLs,
at least a rather updated version of ucb mail, that also does imap /
pop / ssl / smtp + auth etc
heirloom mailx aka nail - http://nail.sourceforge.net
On 9/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PINE? looking at MUTT, but i'm really partial to
UCBMail stripping
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