Re: Topicality and audiences [was Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day]

2006-09-23 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
It doesn't matter who wrote: If you don't find network operations to be relevant, then by all means STOP POSTING TO THE GOD DAMNED NETWORK OPERATIONS MAILING LIST. Some of those, particularly those who *gasp* run networks, still find it relevent. If there is this much disagreement about your p

[offtopic] Topicality debate [my 2 bits]

2006-09-23 Thread John Underhill
I hadn't checked this list for a week or so, and today was met with this deluge of posts regarding topicality [again], in response, might I offer a couple of stray thoughts? The debate and subsequent infighting has become far more disruptive now, then the occasional offtopic post. It is a simp

Re: [offtopic] Topicality debate [my 2 bits]

2006-09-23 Thread Josh Cheney
John Underhill wrote: [snip] > There is the issue of sustaining readership. If window of acceptable > subject matter is too narrow, appeal will decline, and with it some of > the readership that we need to remain active will leave the list, hence > we need some [reasonable] measure of flexibility

shared hosting and attacks [FWD: [funsec] HostGator: cPanel Security Hole Exploited in Mass Hack]

2006-09-23 Thread Gadi Evron
Hi, the following post is a forward of an email by Fergie to funsec. This story by itself is not relevant to NANOG, but it does illustrate a problem nearly all of us have been facing. Mass exploitation of servers in our nets, colos and hosting farms. Nearly ever (relevant, not say, just a transit

Re: [offtopic] Topicality debate [my 2 bits]

2006-09-23 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, John Underhill wrote: > -Moderated Approach > Create an nanogofftopic@ to give a vent to members. If a post is clearly > offtopic and not announced as such, use a 'three strikes your out' approach, > first warning and inviting review of list guidelines, then as a last measur