Re: Outages mailing list

2006-10-02 Thread S. Ryan
You're right, it'll probably never happen. I do find when I am upfront and honest with our customers, they enjoy it and act far less irritated than giving them what the company would prefer and that is 'we're down, sorry, it'll be down for xx amount of time..' Personally, if my ISP had issu

AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Mike Lyon
Is anyone else noticing new AOL lameness that when you send an e-mail to an AOL user and if the e-mail has a URL in it but the reverse lookup of that url doesn't come back to that domain name that AOL's postmaster rejects it and gives you this URL: http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvuip.h

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Steve Atkins
On Oct 2, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Mike Lyon wrote: Is anyone else noticing new AOL lameness that when you send an e-mail to an AOL user and if the e-mail has a URL in it but the reverse lookup of that url doesn't come back to that domain name that AOL's postmaster rejects it and gives you this URL

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Mike Lyon
OK, I should clarify this. The description that is on that link I put in my original e-mail doesn't actually describe what is happening, but that is the error they spit back at me. What really is happening is that the url that is in my e-mail and when you reolve it to an IP, if you do a reverse

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread william(at)elan.net
Anybody more familiar with setup at AOL - is this true? If so you're going to do disservice to the community as in practice this will cause lots of places to go to per-ip virtual hosting and more ip usage from hosting companies like it was 5-7 years ago when browsers did not yet support HTTP/

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Jeff Shultz
Along the lines of "a picture is worth...etc.." an actual example of an e-mail that is sent out generating that error would be very useful. I'm guessing that, from the page at the URL provided, AOL has decided that banning dotted quads from e-mails will cut down on the spam and phishing scam

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 10/2/06, Matt Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I'm noticing this too. Very lame indeed. Doing a quick Google > on it in the Groups it seems that it was a feature that was enabled > earlier this year. My guess is they turned it off, then turned it Drew the attention of a friend a

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:35:55 PDT, Mike Lyon said: > > Is anyone else noticing new AOL lameness that when you send an e-mail > to an AOL user and if the e-mail has a URL in it but the reverse > lookup of that url doesn't come back to that domain name that AOL's > postmaster rejects it and gives you

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Steve Atkins
On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Mike Lyon wrote: OK, I should clarify this. The description that is on that link I put in my original e-mail doesn't actually describe what is happening, but that is the error they spit back at me. What really is happening is that the url that is in my e-mail and

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread trainier
So, to clarify: The official policy has nothing to do with reverse DNS lookups of URLs. AOL's policy prohibits linking of URLs using IP addresses. The system they used to enforce the policy was/is quirky, as can bee seen here. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/02/2006 02:23:56 PM: > > On 10/2/06

Re: AOL Non-Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:53:56PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: ... > Drew the attention of a friend at AOL to this and got a reply quoted > below - this was apparently an issue at AOL's end. Thanks to AOL for > quickly acting to fix this. > > I've been asked by my friend to post this bel

Re: AOL Non-Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Rick Kunkel
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Joseph S D Yao wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:53:56PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > ... > > Drew the attention of a friend at AOL to this and got a reply quoted > > below - this was apparently an issue at AOL's end. Thanks to AOL for > > quickly acting to fix

Re: AOL Non-Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 18:30 -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote: > All, this seems seriously NON-lame to me. Of course, testing and fixing > the bug before it was put out there would have been less so. Testing something like this would be difficult without duplicating everyone's email into a developme

Re: AOL Non-Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread up
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Rick Kunkel wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Joseph S D Yao wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:53:56PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > ... > > > Drew the attention of a friend at AOL to this and got a reply quoted > > > below - this was apparently an issue at A

Re: AOL Non-Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Steven Champeon
on Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 06:45:46PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Rick Kunkel wrote: > > I had users that appeared to be getting their email blocked seemingly > > because in their sigs, they write their phone number that stupid > > IP-Address-Wannabe method, like: > > > > 20

Re: AOL Non-Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Ian Mason
On 2 Oct 2006, at 23:39, Rick Kunkel wrote: On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Joseph S D Yao wrote: On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:53:56PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: ... Drew the attention of a friend at AOL to this and got a reply quoted below - this was apparently an issue at AOL's end. Than

International phone numbers (was Re: AOL Non-Lameness)

2006-10-02 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
Judicious clipping; hope I kept the right attributions... Ian Mason wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 23:39, Rick Kunkel wrote: I had users that appeared to be getting their email blocked seemingly because in their sigs, they write their phone number that stupid IP-Address-Wannabe method, like: 206

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Steve Atkins wrote: > That seems pretty unlikely (as it would break every email mentioning a > virtual hosted website), and the URL you link to says nothing of > the sort (it says "Don't use dotted-quads in URLs unless you want to > look like Atriks, doofu

Re: AOL Non-Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Rick Kunkel wrote: > I had users that appeared to be getting their email blocked seemingly > because in their sigs, they write their phone number that stupid > IP-Address-Wannabe method, like: > 206.555.1212 > As an aside, is this something that's the

Re: International phone numbers (was Re: AOL Non-Lameness)

2006-10-02 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > Judicious clipping; hope I kept the right attributions... > > Ian Mason wrote: > >> On 2 Oct 2006, at 23:39, Rick Kunkel wrote: > >>> I had users that appeared to be getting their email blocked seemingly >>> because in their sigs, they write their phone number that s

Re: AOL Lameness

2006-10-02 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Bill Woodcock wrote: > It is indeed happening, and appears to have started last night. Dang, I really need to train myself to read _all_ of my email before replying to _any_ of it. -Bill

Re: International phone numbers (was Re: AOL Non-Lameness)

2006-10-02 Thread Rick Kunkel
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > Judicious clipping; hope I kept the right attributions... > > Ian Mason wrote: > > > On 2 Oct 2006, at 23:39, Rick Kunkel wrote: > > >> I had users that appeared to be getting their email blocked seemingly > >> because in their sigs, they write the