Re: motivating security, was Re: Every incident...

2007-02-13 Thread John Bittenbender
On 2/12/07, Per Heldal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 09:06 -0500, Edward Lewis wrote: > I've worked in security for some time, not that it makes me an expert > but I have seen how it is promoted/advertised. > > On Feb/12/07, someone wrote: > > >Consumers are cheap and lazy. >

Re: Solaris telnet vuln solutions digest and network risks

2007-02-13 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Albert Meyer wrote: > Gadi Evron wrote: > > A couple of updates and a summary digest of useful information shared from > > all around on this vulnerability, for those of us trying to make sense of > > what it means to our networks: > > Gadi, > > This post appears to have bee

Re: Solaris telnet vuln solutions digest and network risks

2007-02-13 Thread Albert Meyer
Gadi Evron wrote: A couple of updates and a summary digest of useful information shared from all around on this vulnerability, for those of us trying to make sense of what it means to our networks: Gadi, This post appears to have been written for another mailing list (where it is probably on

Solaris telnet vuln solutions digest and network risks

2007-02-13 Thread Gadi Evron
A couple of updates and a summary digest of useful information shared from all around on this vulnerability, for those of us trying to make sense of what it means to our networks: 1. Sun released a patch (although it is not a final one). It can be found on their site ( http://sunsolve.sun.com/tpa

RE: Virtual Global Task Force Conference Invitation

2007-02-13 Thread Joseph Jackson
Well this is off topic. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jonathan Disher > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:51 PM > To: nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Virtual Global Task Force Conference Invitation > > > This is from Travis Haymor

Virtual Global Task Force Conference Invitation

2007-02-13 Thread Jonathan Disher
This is from Travis Haymore of DHS/ICE Cyber Crimes Center: You are invited to attend the Virtual Global Task Force Conference being held in Washington, DC on the 21st and 22nd of February at the Renaissance Mayflower Hotel. The Virtual Global Taskforce (VGT) is made up of law enforcement agen

Re: Every incident is an opportunity

2007-02-13 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 05:12:05AM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > > warning-- this thread is so far off topic, i can't even REMEMBER a topic > that it might once have had. hit D now. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Shein) writes: > > > ... If your goal is invasion then value preservation is impor

Re: Every incident is an opportunity

2007-02-13 Thread Edward Lewis
At 5:12 + 2/13/07, Paul Vixie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Shein) writes: ... If your goal is invasion then value preservation is important (factories, bridges, civilian infrastructure, etc.) ... so if the last remaining superpower were to bomb a country in the middle east in prepar

Re: Every incident is an opportunity

2007-02-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 05:12:05AM +, Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 17 lines which said: > so if the last remaining superpower were to bomb a country in the > middle east in preparation for invasion, regime change, etc., that > superpower would be well advised to avoid

Re: death of the net predicted by deloitte -- film at 11

2007-02-13 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> "So assuming router state based multicast, how do you bill on that if > the stream is exploded on the opposite end of, or in the middle of, a > transit network?" "You're likely getting it from a settlement free peer at the request of your customer who has paid for you to deliver it to them. You