Re: TransAtlantic Cable Break

2007-06-23 Thread Keith
> However, if you put 15G down your "20G" path, you have no redundancy. > In a cut, dropping 5G on the floor, causing 33% packet loss is not > "up", it might as well be down. > > If your redundancy solution is at Layer 3, you have to have the > policies in place that you don't run much over 10G a

Re: it was damp in belleview

2007-06-23 Thread Randy Bush
>> i.e., it's time to turn it off. you are damaging your customers and >> others' customers. > There is a growing number of "Tier 1" NSPs who do not dampen anymore (or > at least they don't dampen their customers). damping one's customers has never been very sane. they pay us to put up with the

Re: it was damp in belleview

2007-06-23 Thread David Ulevitch
Randy Bush wrote: i.e., it's time to turn it off. you are damaging your customers and others' customers. There is a growing number of "Tier 1" NSPs who do not dampen anymore (or at least they don't dampen their customers). NTT is one of them. Who are the others? -David

it was damp in belleview

2007-06-23 Thread Randy Bush
the network at the belleview meeting was fantastic, thanks to the host, xkl, and the usual suspects (merit, tony, ...). but there was one outage. as best i know, that outage was caused by one of the two upstream transit isps bouncing (at least) the nanog prefix on one of their routers far over t

Re: TransAtlantic Cable Break

2007-06-23 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:56:32AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > Is paying for "protected circuits" actually worth it. Or are you better > off just buying two circuits and using both during normal conditions. > Use switching at layer 3 to the remaining circuit during abnorma

Re: TransAtlantic Cable Break

2007-06-23 Thread Alexander Koch
Roderick, are you actually fishing and / or hoping for comments and mails directly to you to then tell your story and sell some? You throw so many pieces in here and there, it sounds like advertising, like your daily promotional verses all in one email thread. Despite your comments being all so i