Transatlantic Ethernet suggestions (London - Toronto)

2007-08-22 Thread Simon Lockhart
Hi, I'm in the process of building a new network, and have a requirement for an ethernet link between London (Telehouse, Redbus Sovereign, or Interxion), and Telehouse Canada (151 Front St, Toronto). I'm looking for either a 10M link, or (if the price is good) fractional 100M (e.g. 30M). I've al

Does anyone multihome anymore? (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion)

2007-08-22 Thread Security Admin (NetSec)
Pardon my forwardness, but don't people just multi-home these days? If your network connection is that mission critical, then having at least two providers would be prudent. Keep Cogent for el cheapo/variable latency connection, but have a reliable second and/or third source (i.e. Sprint, UUN

Re: Does anyone multihome anymore? (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion)

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 03:49 AM 8/22/2007, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote: Pardon my forwardness, but don't people just multi-home these days? If your Multihoming is great for when there is a total outage. In the case of Cogent on Monday, it wasnt "down"... In this case, there is only so much you can do to in

Re: Does anyone multihome anymore?

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 10:11 AM 8/22/2007, Paul Kelly :: Blacknight Solutions wrote: Mike Tancsa wrote: > > At 03:49 AM 8/22/2007, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote: > >> Pardon my forwardness, but don't people just multi-home these days? >> If your > > Multihoming is great for when there is a total outage. In the cas

RE: Does anyone multihome anymore?

2007-08-22 Thread David Hubbard
From: Mike Tancsa > > Hi, > In my case, I have 6453 and 174 for transit. I want to get to 577 > which is directly connected to 6453 and 174. 577 has a higher local > pref on paths via 174. Short of shutting my 174 session (or some > deaggregation), I dont have a way to influence how 577 gets

Re: Does anyone multihome anymore?

2007-08-22 Thread Dan Armstrong
We're connected to Teleglobe(6453), Telus(852), TeliaSonera(1299), MCI(701), and L3(3356) We don't play any economic games with our traffic - our routing policy is (theoretically) designed to give the best possible product to our customers, and although we weren't dead in the water during th

RE: Does anyone multihome anymore?

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 10:31 AM 8/22/2007, David Hubbard wrote: That's because Cogent has chosen to not give us the BGP communities Actually, in my case I dont think it would help because 577 has some sort of paid agreement with teleglobe and probably a very cheap (or even zero $$$) agreement with Cogent. So I

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:32:43 CDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > of all this President Bush insists the Iraq war is necessary. What bull...I'm > surprised a member of the press hasn't killed Bush.. I'm not at all surprised - the press has, as a whole, given the entire Executive branch and most of Congr

Telefonica network contacts to resolve reachability issues.

2007-08-22 Thread David Ulevitch
Is anyone from Telefonica around that can help debug some technical issues regarding reachability to a number of prefixes across a few ASs? The contact info on puck.nether.net bounces and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bitbucket from all outward appearances. This has been going on for at least a mo

Re: Does anyone multihome anymore?

2007-08-22 Thread Deepak Jain
Actually, in my case I dont think it would help because 577 has some sort of paid agreement with teleglobe and probably a very cheap (or even zero $$$) agreement with Cogent. So I dont think they would let me influence their exit path to make them pay Teleglobe more money :) Since AS577 keep

Re: Does anyone multihome anymore?

2007-08-22 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Multihoming is great for when there is a total outage. In the case of > Cogent on Monday, it wasnt "down"... In this case, there is only so much > you can do to influence how packets come back at you as BGP doesnt know > anything about a "lossy" or slo

Re: Does anyone multihome anymore?

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 02:12 PM 8/22/2007, Deepak Jain wrote: Actually, in my case I dont think it would help because 577 has some sort of paid agreement with teleglobe and probably a very cheap (or even zero $$$) agreement with Cogent. So I dont think they would let me influence their exit path to make them pay

Re: Does anyone multihome anymore?

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 03:26 PM 8/22/2007, Steve Gibbard wrote: Thought about that way, there's nothing "Draconian" about turning off a connection (or a switch, or a router, or any other redundant component) that's not doing what you want it to. While I agree in general with what you are getting at, one point t

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-22 Thread Michael Sinatra
Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:09:10 GMT "Paul Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They don't even have to touch the hardware. :-) http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/11/72051 Did you see what the GAO found when they audited the US-VISIT network? The summ