Re: Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-03 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:37:46PM -0400, John Curran wrote: > > At 9:21 PM -0400 9/3/07, Joe Abley wrote: > > > >Is there a groundswell of *operators* who think TCP should be replaced, and > >believe it can be replaced? > > Just imagine *that* switchover, with the same level of > transition pl

Re: Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-03 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: Is there a groundswell of *operators* who think TCP should be replaced, and believe it can be replaced? Or is the motivation for replacing TCP mainly felt by those who spend a lot of time trying to get maximum performance out of single flows over hi

Re: Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-03 Thread John Curran
At 7:40 PM -0700 9/3/07, Joel Jaeggli wrote: >John Curran wrote: >> At 9:21 PM -0400 9/3/07, Joe Abley wrote: >>> Is there a groundswell of *operators* who think TCP should be replaced, and >>> believe it can be replaced? >> >> Just imagine *that* switchover, with the same level of >> transition

Re: Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
John Curran wrote: > At 9:21 PM -0400 9/3/07, Joe Abley wrote: >> Is there a groundswell of *operators* who think TCP should be replaced, and >> believe it can be replaced? > > Just imagine *that* switchover, with the same level of > transition planning as we received with IPv6... > ;-) The con

Re: Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-03 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:21:26 -0400 Joe Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 3-Sep-2007, at 1328, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Spurred on by a widespread belief that TCP is showing its age and > > > needs replacing > > I don't mean to hijack this thread unnecessarily, but this seems like

Re: Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-03 Thread John Curran
At 9:21 PM -0400 9/3/07, Joe Abley wrote: > >Is there a groundswell of *operators* who think TCP should be replaced, and >believe it can be replaced? Just imagine *that* switchover, with the same level of transition planning as we received with IPv6... ;-) /John

Re: Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-03 Thread Joe Abley
On 3-Sep-2007, at 1328, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spurred on by a widespread belief that TCP is showing its age and needs replacing I don't mean to hijack this thread unnecessarily, but this seems like an interesting disconnect between ops people and research people (either that or I'm j

Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-03 Thread nanditad
Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos We would like to invite you to a two-day congestion control workshop, titled "Train-wrecks and congestion control: What happens if we do nothing?", which we are hosting at Stanford on 31 March - 1 April, 2008. Spurred on