Re: Standard prefix length filtering

2007-09-19 Thread Raymond Macharia
You should not have any issues with a /22, most providers will accept /24 as the maximum length. refer to http://www.nanog.org/filter.html Regards Raymond chk 543 wrote: Is there a standard prefix length most providers filter on, or is there a way to find out what each provider filters on?

Re: Question on Loosely Synchronized Router Clocks

2007-09-19 Thread bmanning
top posting to keep you alert! there are folks who syncronize clocks so that logs make sense. and those that do, tend to pick a common TZ... there is nothing like syncronizing logs from routers in Nepal, India, China, and LA UTC can be your friend... wrt acces to clock source - i'd be

RE: Going dual-stack, how do apps behave and what to do as an operator (Was: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?)

2007-09-19 Thread michael.dillon
When I wrote my book, I mostly looked at Cisco for this, and apart from Cisco to FreeBSD and Linux. The logic is that on a Cisco, you can build a good tunnel box (6to4 or manual tunnels) on a C7200 or some other box that has a decent CPU that can do the tunneling in software. Quite

Re: Question on Loosely Synchronized Router Clocks

2007-09-19 Thread Jeff McAdams
Stephen Sprunk wrote: ... is it reasonable to assume clock synchronization in the rest of our design? In general, it is not. I can't think of any existing protocol that does, actually. Kerberos. -- Jeff McAdams They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety

RE: Going dual-stack, how do apps behave and what to do as an operator (Was: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?)

2007-09-19 Thread michael.dillon
Just stumbled upon this article http://www.networkworld.com/news/tech/2007/090507-tech-uodate.html Suggested here is that Dual Stack is more attractive than tunneling. Is the advise here based on real life experience or is it a matter of what is good for the goose may not be good for the

Re: Going dual-stack, how do apps behave and what to do as an operator (Was: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?)

2007-09-19 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 18-sep-2007, at 23:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:29:38 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum said: they can't do it in hardware or with decent speed in software) but there are no cheap(er) Juniper boxes that are suitable for deployment as a 5 - 200 Mbps tunnel box, in my

What's the real issue here?

2007-09-19 Thread NetSecGuy
:~ whois 97.81.31.19 Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program. Is this a function of whois hardcoded to no do lookups for this address space? I can't seem to find any info about the range, beyond registered but unallocated. I figured whois would at least return something

Re: Going dual-stack, how do apps behave and what to do as an operator (Was: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?)

2007-09-19 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 19-sep-2007, at 11:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that 6to4 relay servers should be dedicated to that task? No, of course not. However, even though today IPv6 traffic is fairly minimal for pretty much everyone, it has the potential to grow quickly

Re: What's the real issue here?

2007-09-19 Thread David Coulson
# whois 97.81.31.19 0.0% 1 58.3 58.3 58.3 58.3 0.0? Charter Communications NETBLK-CHARTER-NET (NET-97-80-0-0-1) 97.80.0.0 - 97.90.255.255 Charter Communications KNG-TN-97-81-24 (NET-97-81-24-0-1)

RE: What's the real issue here?

2007-09-19 Thread Scott Morris
My whois program returns: 97.81.31.19 Host unreachable 97.81.24.0 - 97.81.31.255 Charter Communications 12405 Powerscourt Dr. St. Louis MO 63131 United States IPAddressing +1-314-288-3889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abuse: +1-314-288-3111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KNG-TN-97-81-24 Created: 2007-04-11

Re: Standard prefix length filtering

2007-09-19 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 09:03:35AM +0100, Andy Davidson wrote: On 19 Sep 2007, at 06:22, chk 543 wrote: Is there a standard prefix length most providers filter on, or is there a way to find out what each provider filters on? We have been assigned a /22 and are wondering if we will have

Re: Going dual-stack, how do apps behave and what to do as an operator (Was: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?)

2007-09-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: location would be enough. If I had some old 7200s lying around I'd use those, in locations where replacing drives isn't a huge deal a BSD box (Linux if you insist) would be a good choice because they give you a bigger CPU for your

Re: What's the real issue here?

2007-09-19 Thread Trent Lloyd
Hi, On 19/09/2007, at 4:28 PM, NetSecGuy wrote: :~ whois 97.81.31.19 Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program. Is this a function of whois hardcoded to no do lookups for this address space? I can't seem to find any info about the range, beyond registered but

Re: What's the real issue here?

2007-09-19 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 10:28:52AM -0400, NetSecGuy wrote: :~ whois 97.81.31.19 Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program. Is this a function of whois hardcoded to no do lookups for this [snip] You are running some old version of whois - thanks for providing no OS or

Re: What's the real issue here?

2007-09-19 Thread David Barak
--- NetSecGuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :~ whois 97.81.31.19 Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program. Is this a function of whois hardcoded to no do lookups for this address space? I can't seem to find any info about the range, beyond registered but unallocated.

Re: Going dual-stack, how do apps behave and what to do as an operator (Was: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?)

2007-09-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
Adrian Chadd wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2007, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: location would be enough. If I had some old 7200s lying around I'd use those, in locations where replacing drives isn't a huge deal a BSD box (Linux if you insist) would be a good choice because they give you a bigger

12u Colo+power in Level3, Orlando, TOMORROW

2007-09-19 Thread david raistrick
Guys, I hate to send this to nanog, and please direct all replies offlistbut this is a flat out last ditch effort to keep from losing a customer. I need about 12u of space @ 380 S. Lake Destiny Rd, Orlando FL and AC power for it (details on that not yet known, 10 dell PE1950s), and I

Re: Going dual-stack, how do apps behave and what to do as an operator (Was: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?)

2007-09-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007, Seth Mattinen wrote: If there's interest I'll hack up a FreeBSD nanobsd image with ipv6 support, a routing daemon (whatever people think is good enough) and whatever other stuff is enough to act as a 6to4 gateway. You too can build diskless core2duo software routers for

Re: What's the real issue here?

2007-09-19 Thread NetSecGuy
Point taken. I assumed my version of whois was up to date and my google results only showed it being unallocated. FWIW, OSX my default whois was 4.7.17, which I assumed was up to date. Updated to 4.7.20 and charter appears. Apologies for the time waster. On 9/19/07, Joe Provo [EMAIL

Re: Going dual-stack, how do apps behave and what to do as an operator (Was: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?)

2007-09-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007, Alex Thurlow wrote: How much traffic can a modern intel board with a core 2 duo handle with $EL_GENERIC_UNIX_OS ? The PCI-Express bus tops out at 2.5 Gbps I believe, and they (Vyatta router salespeople to be specific) say you should be able to reach that. At 850

Level3 or Broadwing or other issues in Dallas ?

2007-09-19 Thread W. Kevin Hunt
I'm in Louisiana and just lost my OC12 to Bwing/L3. Circuit didn't die, actually received a BGP message to terminate the session. Anyone else seeing anything or got an update? ALL the numbers I have to L3 are busy...

Re: Level3 or Broadwing or other issues in Dallas ?

2007-09-19 Thread Jerry B. Altzman
on 2007-09-19 13:25 W. Kevin Hunt said the following: I’m in Louisiana and just lost my OC12 to Bwing/L3. Circuit didn’t die, actually received a BGP message to terminate the session. Anyone else seeing anything or got an update? ALL the numbers I have to L3 are busy... Same same for our

Re: Level3 or Broadwing or other issues in Dallas ?

2007-09-19 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 12:25:53PM -0500, W. Kevin Hunt wrote: I'm in Louisiana and just lost my OC12 to Bwing/L3. Circuit didn't die, actually received a BGP message to terminate the session. Anyone else seeing anything or got an update? ALL the numbers I have to L3 are busy... Seeing

Level 3 in Ohio

2007-09-19 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Is anyone reporting Level3 outages in Ohio or DC ? One of my clients is down, and L3 is not answering the phones (!) traceroute 65.89.42.1 (From Cogent in Tyson's Corner) traceroute to 65.89.42.1 (65.89.42.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 dmz-mct2.multicasttech.com (63.105.122.1) 0.367

RE: Level3 or Broadwing or other issues in Dallas ?

2007-09-19 Thread Brian Knoll \(TTNET\)
Same thing in Chicago. Brian Knoll -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Vandegrift Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:34 PM To: W. Kevin Hunt Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Level3 or Broadwing or other issues in Dallas ? On

Re: Level3 or Broadwing or other issues in Dallas ?

2007-09-19 Thread up
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: on 2007-09-19 13:25 W. Kevin Hunt said the following: I?m in Louisiana and just lost my OC12 to Bwing/L3. Circuit didn?t die, actually received a BGP message to terminate the session. Anyone else seeing anything or got an update? ALL the

[Fwd: [Outages] FW: SMC INITIAL OUTAGE NOTIFICATION: MULTIPLE fBroadwing Markets]

2007-09-19 Thread virendra rode //
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FYI -/ - Original Message Subject: [Outages] FW: SMC INITIAL OUTAGE NOTIFICATION: MULTIPLE fBroadwing Markets Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:50:58 -0500 From: W. Kevin Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] City/State:

Re: Level3 or Broadwing or other issues in Dallas ?

2007-09-19 Thread Sean Donelan
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, W. Kevin Hunt wrote: I'm in Louisiana and just lost my OC12 to Bwing/L3. Circuit didn't die, actually received a BGP message to terminate the session. Looks like a change management Oops. I'm sure they are putting things back as fast as they can.

Re: Level 3 in Ohio

2007-09-19 Thread Marshall Eubanks
It's back up in Ohio, as of 2:05 PM EDT. On Sep 19, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Is anyone reporting Level3 outages in Ohio or DC ? One of my clients is down, and L3 is not answering the phones (!) traceroute 65.89.42.1 (From Cogent in Tyson's Corner) traceroute to

RE: Level 3 in Ohio

2007-09-19 Thread Mike Walter
I can ping 65.89.42.1 from here and it seems to be going through level3. traceroute to 65.89.42.1 (65.89.42.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 wookie-02.core..net () 0.454 ms 0.458 ms 0.320 ms 2 wookie-01-fe-2-0.core..net (xx) 0.678 ms 0.648 ms 0.559 ms 3

Re: Level3 or Broadwing or other issues in Dallas ?

2007-09-19 Thread Netfortius
Yep - Chicago also. On Wednesday 19 September 2007 12:25:53 W. Kevin Hunt wrote: I'm in Louisiana and just lost my OC12 to Bwing/L3. Circuit didn't die, actually received a BGP message to terminate the session. Anyone else seeing anything or got an update? ALL the numbers I have to L3 are

ipv6/v4 naming nomenclature [Was: Apple Air...]

2007-09-19 Thread Barrett Lyon
On Sep 18, 2007, at 1:30 PM, David Conrad wrote: HI, On Sep 18, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: Please please please, for the sake of a semi-'standard', please only use the following forms in those cases: www.domain www.ipv6.domain www.ipv4.domain Don't come up with any other

Re: ipv6/v4 naming nomenclature [Was: Apple Air...]

2007-09-19 Thread Jeroen Massar
Barrett Lyon wrote: On Sep 18, 2007, at 1:30 PM, David Conrad wrote: [..] On Sep 18, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: Please please please, for the sake of a semi-'standard', please only use [..] What RFC (or other standards publication) is this documented in? Where did the www.ipv6

RH0 and Enterprise Input

2007-09-19 Thread Azinger, Marla
Nanogers- Specifically Enterprise nogers. Not sure if you are aware of this IETF draft on RH0. Its in last call. So if you want to voice your opinion on whether you feel everyone should stop the traffic that has RH0 headers from moving on or just ignore