RE: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-10 Thread Jamie Bowden
Haven't you been paying attention? There's a whole thread dedicated to why Australia's horridly expensive. Jamie Bowden -- "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" Iain Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message

Re: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-10 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > Haven't you been paying attention? There's a whole thread dedicated to > why Australia's horridly expensive. Its only ~ $300 a megabit. If you only require bugger all traffic constant (like say, backup DNS for some small sites) then its not -that- e

Re: How Not to Multihome

2007-10-10 Thread Stephen Satchell
Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Justin, if Provider A _has_ permission from Provider B to announce a prefix, do you believe Provider A should be allowed to announce the prefix? As long as all of the relevant parties know about it and are OK with it,

RE: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-10 Thread Jamie Bowden
-Original Message- From: Adrian Chadd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:07 AM To: Jamie Bowden Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: wanted: offshore hosting On Wed, Oct 10, 2007, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > Haven't you been paying attention? There's a whole thread d

Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread CARL . P . HIRSCH
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint. Output over Cogent: sarglund-cogent>traceroute www.duke-energy.com Translating "www.duke-energy.c

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Basil Kruglov
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message > reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also > seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint. > > 2 g1-0.core01.ord

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint. Are you sure that this is not in

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Basil Kruglov wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also seem to be experiencing

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Basil Kruglov
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:00:13AM -0400, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > Are you sure that this is not in Sprint, or even Duke Energy ? > > I can't ping to 192.234.122.137 from either home or work, and I don't > see any signs of Cogent problems > from Tyco Road / Tysons Corner. It would seem that t

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message > reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also > seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint. We're seeing very simil

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread CARL . P . HIRSCH
Yes, it looks like this might have been resolved. Duke Energy, Teco Energy, Accenture, and the Washington Post are all now accessible via Cogent. -carl Basil Kruglov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/10/2007 10:17 AM Please respond to nanog@merit.edu To nanog@merit.edu cc

RE: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
We shut off Cogent around 9:00 because of routing issues to Telia and other parts of the Net. >From http://status.cogentco.com ** ** Cogent Network Status Report Last Updated Wed Oct 10 10:55:40 2007 **

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Dave Pooser
> Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message reports > that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also seem to be > experiencing peering problems with Sprint. There may be some internal problems on the Sprint network; I'm unable to hit www.duke-energy.

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Dave Pooser
Wow, pasted the wrong traceroute AND hit send instead of delete. It's another great day around here. More caffeine, stat Sprint EVDO network still seems flaky from here, but I'm waiting for one of my more technical users to get online for troubleshooting purposes. The duke-energy.com IP is re

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-10 Thread Joe Greco
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote: > > It's arrogant to fix brokenness? Because I'm certainly there. In my > > experience, if you don't bother to address problems, they're very likely > > to remain, especially when money is involved on the opposite side. > > There's a big difference between

Easy and hard multihoming (was: Re: Upstreams blocking /24s)

2007-10-10 Thread David Barak
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So if one of > the Tier I's decides not to accept my public /29 > then the millions of > singlehomed subscribers go with it. Yep. During normal operation, someone would be announcing the aggregate out of which your /29 is carved, and that provider should be s

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-10 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Andrew, On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:36:12 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Odlyzko) wrote: > > As a point of information, Australia is one of the few places where > the government collects Internet traffic statistics (which are hopefully > trustworthy). Pointer is at > >http://www.dtc.

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote: One of the biggest challenges for the Internet has got to be the steadily increasing storage market, combined with the continued development of small, portable processors for every application, meaning that there's been an explosion of computing devices.

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote: One of the biggest challenges for the Internet has got to be the steadily increasing storage market, combined with the continued development of small, portable processors for every application, me

OT: Visio or Autocad

2007-10-10 Thread Stephen Fulton
Greetings all, A good friend of mine swears that Autocad is superior for network design to Visio. I don't disagree, but only because I have never used Autocad for network design. So far Visio has generally met my needs when I'm working on a design, but I have found it lacking (or perhaps ju

Re: OT: Visio or Autocad

2007-10-10 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Stephen Fulton wrote: A good friend of mine swears that Autocad is superior for network design to Visio. I don't disagree, but only because I have never used Autocad for network design. So far Visio has generally met my needs when I'm working on a design, but I have fou

Re: OT: Visio or Autocad

2007-10-10 Thread William Herrin
On 10/10/07, Stephen Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone using Autocad for network design? What are your thoughts? Stephen, I still use Corel Draw 3 for my network diagrams, so its not unheard of to use something other than Visio. The main benefit to Visio comes when -someone else- n

RE: OT: Visio or Autocad

2007-10-10 Thread Eric Lutvak
It is my uinderstanding that we should use what really works for the individual.. Just because certain individuals OVERUSE Visio for various reasons, I feel that the usage of the best tool to fit the situation is perfectly acceptable. In the end, the printout will still look the same right?? If pe

RE: OT: Visio or Autocad

2007-10-10 Thread Eric Lutvak
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:11 PM To: Stephen Fulton Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: OT: Visio or Autocad On 10/10/07, Stephen Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone using A

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-10 Thread Joe Greco
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote: > >> One of the biggest challenges for the Internet has got to be the > >> steadily > >> increasing storage market, combined with the continued development of > >> small, portable processors for ev

Re: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-10 Thread Hex Star
On 10/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all. > > Last time I asked for a hosting place, I ended up going with > LayeredTech, but I can give you a list of options if you like. > > So, I'd like to rent a box somewhere outside of the US, for geographic > redundancy and othe

Re: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-10 Thread Peter Dambier
That depends on your legislation: There are a lot of things forbidden in the US but allowed in Europe as well as a lot of things allowed in the US but prohibited in Europe. Then there are a lot of misunderstangs like accidently or colaterally censoring. I remeber a physicist beeing banned in ge

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Many people leave the TV on all the time, at least while they are home. On the Internet broadcasting side, we (AmericaFree.TV) have some viewers that do the same - one has racked up a cumulative 109 _days_ of viewing so far this year. (109 days in