Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, Sean Donelan wrote: Why artificially keep access link speeds low just to prevent upstream network congestion? Why can't you have big access links? You're the one that says that statistical overbooking doesn't work, not anyone else. Since I know people that offer

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-28 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 26 okt 2007, at 18:29, Sean Donelan wrote: And generating packets with false address information is more acceptable? I don't buy it. When a network is congested, someone is going to be upset about any possible response. That doesn't mean all possible responses are equally acceptable.

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-28 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: Why artificially keep access link speeds low just to prevent upstream network congestion? Why can't you have big access links? You're the one that says that statistical overbooking doesn't work, not anyone else. If you performed a simple

Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-28 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Background: We MX for a domain, and turn it right around to Yahoo! Mail. I know others have run into this before. Because a fair amount of it is spam, Yahoo stops accepting the mail, yadda yadda yadda. Problem: I jumped through all the hoops, and they tell me I'm denied. When

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Sean Donelan wrote: If you performed a simple Google search, you would have discovered many universities around the world having similar problems. The university network engineers are saying adding capacity alone isn't solving their problems. You're welcome to provide

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-28 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: If you performed a simple Google search, you would have discovered many universities around the world having similar problems. The university network engineers are saying adding capacity alone isn't solving their problems. You're welcome to

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 10/29/07, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, we cannot provide you with specific information other than to suggest a review of the questionnaire we supplied and try to determine where your mailing practices may be improved upon. In other words, fix your