summary of ipflow/netflow appliance

2008-01-16 Thread Stefan Hegger
Here a summary of the answers I got. Again thanks for your help. mail from Joe -Try fprobe, open source: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fprobe reply from Samuel -nProbe by ntop.org is pretty robust tool for generating v5/v9 flows and fairly inexpensive. http://www.ntop.org/nProbe.html

Re: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

2008-01-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:14:33PM -0600, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 61 lines which said: To try to make this slightly more relevant, is it a good idea, either technically or legally, to mandate some sort of standard for this? I'm thinking something like the

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Jan 16, 2008 5:39 PM, Rod Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. UK: UKNOF; http://www.uknof.org.uk/ I just attended the last meeting Monday. Free and a good lunch included! Please do not confuse UKNOF with the United Kingdom Nitric Oxide Forum. Nitric Oxide keeps your arteries relaxed and

Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Folks, 1. UK: UKNOF; http://www.uknof.org.uk/ I just attended the last meeting Monday. Free and a good lunch included! Please do not confuse UKNOF with the United Kingdom Nitric Oxide Forum. Nitric Oxide keeps your arteries relaxed and your blood pressure under control 2. Europe: RIPE;

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:09:48PM -, Rod Beck wrote: 6. I am not aware of any Dutch per se ISP conferences although that market is certainly quite vibrant. I am also disappointed to see the Canadians and Irish have next to nothing despite Ireland being the European base of operations for

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Jeroen Massar
Rod Beck wrote: [..] 6. I am not aware of any Dutch per se ISP conferences although that market is certainly quite vibrant. See http://www.nlnog.net/ though conferences is not the case, then again there is RIPE + AMS-IX meetings, who needs more than that :) Also see http://www.swinog.org

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Suresh Ramasubramanian schrieb: APRICOT - http://www.apricot2008.net next month in Taipei. SANOG - www.sanog.org - going on right now in Dhaka, Bangladesh SwiNOG - http://www.swinog.ch/ - two meetings per year in Berne, Switzerland, active mailing list, IRC and regional beer events. Regards,

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Gadi Evron
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Simon Lockhart wrote: On Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:09:48PM -, Rod Beck wrote: 6. I am not aware of any Dutch per se ISP conferences although that market is certainly quite vibrant. I am also disappointed to see the Canadians and Irish have next to nothing despite Ireland

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Phil Regnauld
Rod Beck (Rod.Beck) writes: Hi Folks, AfNOG, African Network Operators Group. Will be on its 9th year this year in Rabat, Marocco. It takes place back-to-back with the AFRINIC meeting: http://www.afnog.org/afnog2008/announce.html

Re: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

2008-01-16 Thread Phil Regnauld
Stephane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer) writes: that appears on most packaged foods in the States, that ISPs put on their Web sites and advertisements. I'm willing to disclose that we block certain ports [...] As a consumer, I would say YES. And FCC should mandates it. ... and if the

RE: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Skeeve Stevens
AusNOG - The Australian Network Operator Group - http://www.ausnog.net/ - Had its first meeting Nov 15-16 2007 - http://2007.ausnog.net/ NZNog - The New Zealand Operator Group - http://www.nznog.org/ - 2008 Conference will be held in a couple of week - http://2008.nznog.org/ From: [EMAIL

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Phil Regnauld
Rod Beck (Rod.Beck) writes: 3. France: FRnOG; http://www.frnog.org/ Has several meetings each year. Has interesting discussions in French on its mailing list. Moderator makes Stalin look easy going. sarcasmInteresting point of view, I'm sure it's impartial./sarcasm Note

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:44:00PM +0100, Phil Regnauld wrote: [snip] Also missed Middle East Network Operators Group (MENOG): http://www.menog.net/ Better still would be some links to aggregate lists: - http://www.nanog.org/orgs.html - http://www.bugest.net/nogs.html -

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Rob Gallagher
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:09:48 - Rod Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6. I am not aware of any Dutch per se ISP conferences although that market is certainly quite vibrant. I am also disappointed to see the Canadians and Irish have next to nothing despite Ireland being the European base of

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Adrian Chadd
.. and could someone or other update the wiki with this info? http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Other_Operations_Groups I added a couple. Adrian On Wed, Jan 16, 2008, Rod Beck wrote: Hi Folks, 1. UK: UKNOF; http://www.uknof.org.uk/ I just attended the last meeting Monday. Free and a

RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

2008-01-16 Thread Frank Bulk
The wikipedia article is simplified to the extent that it doesn't embed actual practices. Those are best obtained at SCTE meetings and discussion with CMTS vendors. A 10x oversubscription rate from residential broadband access doesn't seem too unreasonable to me based in practice and what I've

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Rob Gallagher
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:09:48 - Rod Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6. I am not aware of any Dutch per se ISP conferences although that market is certainly quite vibrant. I am also disappointed to see the Canadians and Irish have next to nothing despite Ireland being the European base of

Re: Looking for geo-directional DNS service

2008-01-16 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Greco) writes: ... So, anyways, would it be entertaining to discuss the relative merits of various DNS implementations that attempt to provide geographic answers to requests, versus doing it at a higher level? (I can hear everyone groaning now, and some purist

Re: Looking for geo-directional DNS service

2008-01-16 Thread Joe Greco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Greco) writes: ... So, anyways, would it be entertaining to discuss the relative merits of various DNS implementations that attempt to provide geographic answers to requests, versus doing it at a higher level? (I can hear everyone groaning now, and some purist

(broadband routers) PC World: Flash Attack Could Take Over Your Router

2008-01-16 Thread Gadi Evron
Props to Jeff Chan who I saw it from. Yes, I still believe these ISP distributed machines called broadband routers are a network operators issue. But not all may agree on that. -- http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20080116/tc_pcworld/141399 Flash Attack Could Take Over Your Router Robert

RE: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Neil J. McRae
Swinog in switzerland is a great forum. -Original Message- From: Rob Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 January 2008 14:46 To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:09:48 - Rod Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6. I am not aware

Re: Looking for geo-directional DNS service

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Patrick W.Gilmore wrote: On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: [...] If you're doing things on the Internet, instead of the physical world, topological distance is presumably of much greater interest than whatever geographic proximity may coincidentally

request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Mike Donahue
Hi. I'm by no means an ip/networking expert, and we're having some difficulty communicating with the boffins at ATT. Any input/advice/translation would be appreciated. We own our own class C netblock. Our previous provider, Sprint, had no problem adding it to their network/advertising it

RE: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Darryl Dunkin
If you want connectivity from both ATT and Sprint with your one block, you have plenty of justification from ARIN to get your AS assigned assuming both feeds come into one location. However, it looks like you are asking two providers to announce the same block at two different locations

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Mike Donahue wrote: Hi. I'm by no means an ip/networking expert, and we're having some difficulty communicating with the boffins at ATT. Any input/advice/translation would be appreciated. We own our own class C netblock. Our previous provider, Sprint, had no

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Darryl Dunkin wrote: If you want connectivity from both ATT and Sprint with your one block, you have plenty of justification from ARIN to get your AS assigned assuming both feeds come into one location. However, it looks like you are asking two providers to

RE: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Scott Berkman
Mike, Generally a netblock is homed somewhere if it doesn't have an association with an ASN. These will often be listed as non-portable, and then each ISP would have to choose to allow you to use that netblock on its network or not. Based on your company name and domain I

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
Darryl Dunkin wrote: If you want connectivity from both ATT and Sprint with your one block, you have plenty of justification from ARIN to get your AS assigned assuming both feeds come into one location. However, it looks like you are asking two providers to announce the same block at two

RE: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Jason Biel
His Sprint circuit has been disconnected and he only has the ATT circuit, which comes into his cabinet, inside of ATTs Colo facility. ATT does not want to announce the space without doing an eBGP peer with you because they do not own the space. This is their policy, Sprint might not have the

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Leo Bicknell
Some networks (of note, the larger ones) have registered a customer ASN. The idea is that networks advertised from their backbone ASN should only be the ones they own, and all customers who have no ASN use the customer ASN to originate their block. In most cases the contract prohibits using the

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Masaru MUKAI
Hi, JANOG, Japan Networks Operators' Group(http://www.janog.gr.jp/) discuss on mailing list in japanese, and has meetings twice a year. We will hold 21st meeting next week(2008/01/24-2008/01/25) in Kumamoto city, Japan. -- Masaru MUKAI / JANOG From: Rod Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Kevin Loch
Mike Donahue wrote: Hi. I'm by no means an ip/networking expert, and we're having some difficulty communicating with the boffins at ATT. Any input/advice/translation would be appreciated. We own our own class C netblock. Our previous provider, Sprint, had no problem adding it to their

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Tony Li
...and aggregated calendars: - http://www.icann.org/general/calendar/ - http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/events/ I've been maintaining an integrated calendar across our related meetings for awhile now. For folks using iCal or compatible tools, you can subscribe via the webcal link

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-16 Thread Tony Li
On Jan 16, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Mike Donahue wrote: Anyway, it's all getting (for us) pretty complicated. We're a fairly small firm and just want an Ethernet handoff with our IP block on it. Sprint didn't blink at the request, but ATT... We're getting a good rate from ATT for the IP services

Re: Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Randy Bush
the folk who actually schedule the meetings use http://ws.edu.isoc.org/calendar/ note that this is not the normal isoc calendar, rather one they kindly host for the ops meeting committees. but few of the national nogs we have seen mentioned here use it. and it did not prevent nanog

Dictionary attacks prompted by NANOG postings?

2008-01-16 Thread Barry Shein
Once again shortly after posting a message to NANOG a fairly significant dictionary attack using Earthlink's mail servers fired up. The same thing happened around Nov 30th (I posted about it here.) Does this happen to anyone else posting here? It's pretty clearly a lame attempt to intimidate

Re: Dictionary attacks prompted by NANOG postings?

2008-01-16 Thread Randy Bush
Does this happen to anyone else posting here? not that i have noticed. i do see massively ( 5x) more ssh dict attacks on the hosts i have in tokyo than those on other continents. but the sample size is too small to draw any serious conclusions. but i would guess there are folk who