Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Roland Perry
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Vest [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes My prediction is that when the handful of mega-ISPs are unable to get the massive quantities of IPv4 addresses they need (a few dozen account for 90% of all consumption in the ARIN region)... I keep reading assertions

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Randy Bush
dear arin hostfolk. could we please have the histogram for the last few years where the Y axis is the amount of allocation and the X axis is the number of organizations with that total size of new allocations during the period? you'll have to bucket alloc size in some useful way, probably

RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread michael.dillon
Operational comment: Look on the bright side, they may follow Comcast's example and deploy ipv6 instead! Or they may not, and their share price will suffer as a result. People making the technical decision to stick with IPv4 for their large network are also making a decision to limit the

The Cidr Report

2008-02-22 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 22 21:14:25 2008 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2008-02-22 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 21-Jan-08 -to- 21-Feb-08 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS2.0 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS949877065 1.3% 63.7 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 2 - AS24731 58209

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 22 feb 2008, at 0:55, Tom Vest wrote: I agree, to a point. My prediction is that when the handful of mega-ISPs are unable to get the massive quantities of IPv4 addresses they need (a few dozen account for 90% of all consumption in the ARIN region)... I keep reading assertions like

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Tom Vest
On Feb 22, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 22 feb 2008, at 0:55, Tom Vest wrote: I agree, to a point. My prediction is that when the handful of mega-ISPs are unable to get the massive quantities of IPv4 addresses they need (a few dozen account for 90% of all

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Roland Perry wrote: I would not be surprised to learn that consumption in the ARIN region includes all the legacy assignments. Many legacy assignments are now administered by the other RIRs http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space Tony. -- f.a.n.finch [EMAIL

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Roland Perry
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I would not be surprised to learn that consumption in the ARIN region includes all the legacy assignments. Many legacy assignments are now administered by the other RIRs http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space I

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 22 feb 2008, at 16:41, Tom Vest wrote: You can download files with all the delegation info from ftp.arin.net. You mean the stats files, which provide delegation date, type, starting number, length, etc.? Yes. Which one of the published fields is the key field that enables you to

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Tom Vest
Hi Iljitsch, Thanks for your response. On Feb 23, 2008, at 1:38 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 22 feb 2008, at 16:41, Tom Vest wrote: You can download files with all the delegation info from ftp.arin.net. You mean the stats files, which provide delegation date, type, starting

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-22 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Tom Vest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree, to a point. My prediction is that when the handful of mega-ISPs are unable to get the massive quantities of IPv4 addresses they need (a few dozen account for 90% of all consumption in the ARIN region)... I keep reading assertions like this. Is