Re: NXDOMAIN data needed for survey

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Steve Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snip ] I wonder who he's paying for his nxdomain data, and whether that someone is authorized to sell it. It strikes me that it's just a small step for someone with access to ISP internal data to go from selling

BGP Update Report

2008-03-21 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 18-Feb-08 -to- 20-Mar-08 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS2.0 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS9498 115119 2.0% 91.8 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 2 - AS24731 66934

The Cidr Report

2008-03-21 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Mar 21 21:14:42 2008 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: NXDOMAIN data needed for survey

2008-03-21 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:45:30AM -0700, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: BTW: If someone legitimate needs NXDOMAIN data, I do have a bunch. If anyone else is interesting in a concerted effort to provide falsified data, I'm interested in helping and hosting. -- Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] The

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Barry Shein
Is this for real? Someone asks a harmless question about setting up multiple default routes, not about Barack Obama or whether the moon is made of green cheese, but about default routes. Then 10 people decide to respond that this isn't appropriate for nanog. Then 25 people decide to dispute

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this for real? Someone asks a harmless question about setting up multiple default routes, not about Barack Obama or whether the moon is made of green cheese, but about default routes. Then 10 people decide to

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Scott McGrath
If we do not help the newbies how will they ever become clued. I can certainly remember when I did not know a bit from a byte. Oh and btw I'll take 5 of those STM64's on special... Regards all - Scott Martin Hannigan wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread andrew2
Scott McGrath wrote: If we do not help the newbies how will they ever become clued. I can certainly remember when I did not know a bit from a byte. I agree, but I question if NANOG is the appropriate medium for such help. I tend to (maybe mistakenly) assume a working knowledge of basic

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:44:39 EDT, Martin Hannigan said: personal opinion I dont think that there's any issue at all to be honest. NANOG isn't just for the clued. /personal opinion And more to the point - if somebody manages to go through all the hoops needed to ask a basic question on

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Scott McGrath
I'll take that bet Valdis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:44:39 EDT, Martin Hannigan said: personal opinion I dont think that there's any issue at all to be honest. NANOG isn't just for the clued. /personal opinion And more to the point - if somebody manages to go

I'm going to stay on the NANOG list anyway

2008-03-21 Thread James R. Cutler
Whoops! I'm still coming to grips with multihoming. According to your thinking, my many years on the NANOG mailing list were wrong and you tell me I should leave. I don't think I can allow you to do that, Andrew. Paul Vixie, Dillon, Bush, and others have given many examples of

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:15:06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: mailing list. Isn't this akin to posting to a profesional mathematics forum asking for help with your Algebra? In 1943 he (Einstein) answered a little girl who had difficulties in school with mathematics. Do not worry about your

AS7018 (ATT) bgp contact needed

2008-03-21 Thread Kevin Loch
Could someone from AS7018 (ATT) please contact me about a route you are originating that is hijacking/blackholing traffic? The route is: 66.235.248.0/22 - Kevin

Re: NXDOMAIN data needed for survey

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Hannigan
I think it's best that we let David Ulevitch and the crew @ OpenDNS make the money that is to be made off this. He's doing good while doing well. Why shouldn't anyone be able to make the money? The problem with that post wasn't that he was advocating law breaking, it was that it's a

RE: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread andrew2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:15:06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: mailing list. Isn't this akin to posting to a profesional mathematics forum asking for help with your Algebra? In 1943 he (Einstein) answered a little girl who had difficulties in school with mathematics.

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's cute Valdis, but did the little girl and Einstein force thousands of people around the world to read their correspondence? Suggestion: Before creating list rule about appropriate level of expertise in questions, wait until

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Sena, Rich
Can someone put this in a digest for me? eg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@merit.edu nanog@merit.edu Sent: Fri Mar 21 16:44:39 2008 Subject: Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant On Fri, Mar

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Peter J. Cherny
At 04:20 AM 21/3/08, ann kok wrote: ls it possible to have 2 default routes? or how can I do the rebundant when the route is still working either eth1 or eth2 down? A google search for ipfilter policy routing turns up lots of hints (mine included). There are some variations using lo0 so that

RE: I'm going to stay on the NANOG list anyway

2008-03-21 Thread Al Iverson
Thanks for letting us know that we should update our kill files. Al -Original Message- From: James R. Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 21, 2008 4:39 PM To: ?NANOG? Operators Group 3F_Operators_Group_ nanog@merit.edu Subject: I'm going to stay on the NANOG list anyway Whoops! I'm

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And more to the point - if somebody manages to go through all the hoops needed to ask a basic question on the NANOG list, it demonstrates a desire to accumulate clue - so we should encourage those people. ... yes, please. (i've not given up on accumulating clue

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008, Sena, Rich wrote: Can someone put this in a digest for me? eg I will, once the shit settles. Adrian - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@merit.edu nanog@merit.edu Sent: Fri Mar 21

Re: default routes question or any way to do the redundant

2008-03-21 Thread Randy Bush
as a friend who reads this list but clearly wants to remain anonymous pointed out http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/funnies.html#CHANGING-LIGHTBULBS randy