Re: cooling door

On 29 Mar 2008, Paul Vixie wrote: > > page 10 and 11 of > says there's a way to move 20kW of heat away from a rack if your normal > CRAC is moving 10kW (it depends on that basic air flow), permitting six > blade servers in a rack. panduit l

Re: [admin] [summary] RE: YouTube IP Hijacking

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Danny McPherson wrote: > > ** Paul Wall brought up the fact that even obviously bogus routes (1/8 > > and 100/7) were accepted by 99% of internet during an experiment. > > I'm not sure why this would surprise anyone. To me and you, it's not surprising. To public, it might be

[admin] [summary] RE: YouTube IP Hijacking

A bit of administrativia: This thread generated over a hundred posts, many without operational relevance or by people who do not understand how operators, well, operate, or by people who really don't have any idea what's going on but feel like posting. I'd like to briefly summarize the impor

[admin] Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)

This conversation is quickly spinning into discussion of politics and terrorism. Reminder to all, please stick to the *operational* aspects of this thread. -alex [NANOG MLC Chair] On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Patrick Clochesy wrote: > I disagree... I think "information warfare tactic" could easily be >

RE: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: > I sincerely doubt that any backbone provider will filter at a /32. That > means they have to check EVERY PACKET AT FULL IP DEST against your AS > advertised routes. Since most backbone routers build circuits at the /18 > and above mask on MPLS, just to

Re: Off Topic

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Rod Beck wrote: > At the risk of incurring Mr. Pilosoft's wrath (the Putin of NANOG?), You meant the "srh of nanog". And I'm not ;) > I'll looking for NANOG style ISP meetings to attend in Europe this year > (France, Germany, UK, Belgium, and Netherlands). Any suggestions wo

SC vs other connectors, optical budgets decreasing (was Re: IEEE 40GE & 100GE)

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > Ted Seely and I are of the same mind on this. 2 dB sounds like plenty > for connector loss right up until you have to deal with multiple patch > bays in a structured system with amateurishly applied mechanical > splices. The difference between no

[admin] RE: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Jerry Pasker wrote: > > > > >But, if it's not viewed as political then... > > > >Your analogy is flawed, because the Internet is not a pipe system > >and ISP's are not your local water utility. > > And the internet is not a big truck! It'sIt's a series of tubes! > > S

[admin] Re: unwise filtering policy from cox.net

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:21:19 PST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > This seems a rather unwise policy on behalf of cox.net -- their > > customers can originate scam emails, but cox.net abuse desk apparently > > does not care to hear about it. > > Seems to

Re: Getting DSL at your datacenter for OOB

On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, David Ulevitch wrote: > We had a great experience doing this with Sonic.net at PAIX in Palo Alto > but have had no success at our other sites. (Sonic.net isn't a national > DSL provider) > > Has anyone found providers who can provision DSL circuits at: EQNX ASH, > the MMR at

Re: mail operators list

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Well, the current nanog MLC is mostly because Susan Harris was cracking > down equally on discussions of anything mail / spam filtering related > (operational not kooky) .. in fact, on anything that didnt involve > pushing packets from A to B.

Re: "ARPANet Co-Founder Predicts An Internet Crisis" (slashdot)

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Paul Vixie wrote: > > "Dr. Larry Roberts, co-founder of the ARPANET and inventor of packet > switching, predicts the Internet is headed for a major crisis in an > article published on the Internet Evolution web site today. Internet > traffic is now growing much more quickly t

[admin] Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? and Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Randy Bush wrote: > actually, it would be really helpful to the masses uf us who are being > liberal with our delete keys if someone would summarize the two threads, > comcast p2p management and 204/4. 240/4 has been summarized before: Look for email with "MLC Note" in subje

[admin] Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? and Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads

[note that this post also relates to the thread Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads] While both discussions started out as operational, most of the mail traffic is things that are not very much related to technology or operations. To clarify, things like these are on-topic: * Whether p2p protoc

RE: 240/4 (MLC NOTE)

Guys, this thread has gone over 50 posts, and doesn't seem to want to end. By now, everyone has had a chance to advance their argument (at least once), and we are just going in circles, increasing noise and not contributing to signal. I'd like to summarize arguments advanced - and if you don't

kill thread (Re: wanted: offshore hosting)

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all. > > Last time I asked for a hosting place, I ended up going with > LayeredTech, but I can give you a list of options if you like. Please note that this thread is off-topic for nanog-list. Please do not contribute further to this thread.

Re: Anyone using uvlan out there?

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Steven Haigh wrote: > From my understanding, this software is pretty much acting like a > bridge, but with endpoints over a routed IP network. So its like l2tpv3 vpn. And, since its based on PC platform, I kind of have to say, in words of Vijay, "It does not scale", and "W

RE: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring (summarization)

As an experiment, I wanted to try to summarize all the answers given on this question, hope this helps someone. Suggestions given: * modem and TAP gateway ** TAP numbers at http://www.avtech.com/Support/TAP/index.htm ** Software: sendpage or qpage * Mobile phone with a serial port and AT com

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, matthew zeier wrote: > Recommendations on software and modems? Couple of options: Dedicated cell phone connected via serial cable and gnokii-like software Analog modem and voice line and TAP software (like sendpage or qpage) Technically, SNPP is the appropriate solution, bu

Re: "2M today, 10M with no change in technology"? An informal survey.

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Jon Lewis wrote: > Though if you've kept up with the latest IOS developments, cisco is > finally differentiating the platforms we've assumed for years were only > different in angle and paint. 6500's won't get to run the newest 7600 > code. I think Cisco is coming to their s

NANOG Humour (Re: "2M today, 10M with no change in technology"? An informal survey.)

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Hex Star wrote: > On 8/27/07, Justin M. Streiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I thought it was just a 6500 that sommeone got drunk and tipped over on > > > it's side, like a cow... > > > > > > > > http://farm.tucows.com/images/2006/07/cow_tipping.jpg :D While

Kill this thread (Re: DNS not working)

I think this thread is obviously silly, so please refrain from posting further on this and feeding the troll... Thanks! On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi, I try adding google.com to my dns server to get more visitors but > google.com still show search engine. Please ad

Please stop (Re: Gwd: crypted document)

On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Jon Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > If you could read the header, the question you would have asked is, "What > > is Chris Adams doing in Korea sending virus mail to nanog?" :) > > Especially as this particular Chris Adams is no

EPO/NEC (was Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's?)

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Leo Bicknell wrote: > What I found interesting is that a single EPO is not a hard and fast > rule. They walked me through a twisty maze of the national electric > code, the national fire code, and local regulations. Through that > journey, they left me with a rather interest