RE: VoIP over IPsec

2003-02-17 Thread Charles Youse
Because you need to use GRE to create a virtual interface on the router and thus enable the use of routing protocols. At least, that's the only way I know how to do it. C. -Original Message- From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 6:19 PM

RE: VoIP over IPsec

2003-02-17 Thread Charles Youse
: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:24 AM To: Charles Youse Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VoIP over IPsec Thus spake "Charles Youse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In order to cut costs in our telecom budget I'm toying with the idea >

RE: VoIP over IPsec

2003-02-17 Thread Charles Youse
So do you suppose that in my scenario, I'd be better off leaving the VoIP out of the encrypted tunnels and use a separate [cleartext] path for them? I'm worried about the security implications, not because I feel there is a huge security risk but because I'm sure the topic will be brought up.

VoIP over IPsec

2003-02-16 Thread Charles Youse
Hello again, I've heard a lot of encouraging things on this list in response to my previous inquiries about VoIP - hoping you can help me out again. In order to cut costs in our telecom budget I'm toying with the idea of replacing a lot of our inter-office leased lines with VPN connections ove

RE: Voice over IP - performance

2003-02-12 Thread Charles Youse
From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:43 PM To: Charles Youse Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Voice over IP - performance > Does anyone have any real-world figures for VoIP performance on > various platforms? In other words, how man

Voice over IP - performance

2003-02-12 Thread Charles Youse
Does anyone have any real-world figures for VoIP performance on various platforms? In other words, how many calls can an otherwise unused e.g., Cisco 2600 be expected to handle if it's the conversion point from trunked voice calls to IP. Some rough numbers for different codecs on different ha

RE: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-10 Thread Charles Youse
But in order for RTP to resync the out-of-order packets it must introduce some delay, no? And that delay causes issues. C. -Original Message- From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:21 PM To: Leo Bicknell Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic G

RE: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-10 Thread Charles Youse
: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:40 PM To: Bill Woodcock; Charles Youse Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VoIP QOS best practices --On Monday, February 10, 2003 10:19 -0800 Bill Woodcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It works fine on 64k connections, okay on many 9600bps connections. T1 i

RE: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-10 Thread Charles Youse
Indeed, but in this case I'm dealing with a private network that doesn't have so much surplus as to guarantee no contention. C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:23 PM To: Charles Youse Cc: Bill Woodco

RE: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-10 Thread Charles Youse
But I could conceivably have 10+ voice channels over a T-1, I still don't quite understand how, without prioritizing voice traffic, the quality won't degrade... C. -Original Message- From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:20 PM T

RE: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-10 Thread Charles Youse
down will make people shout. C. -Original Message- From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:05 PM To: Charles Youse Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VoIP QOS best practices > That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense - is it that QoS

RE: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-10 Thread Charles Youse
That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense - is it that QoS doesn't work as advertised? As someone who is looking to deploy VoIP in the near future this is of particular interest. C. -Original Message- From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:48

RE: Weird networking issue.

2003-01-07 Thread Charles Youse
Title: RE: Weird networking issue. By nature, a hub is half-duplex - it's a repeater. Besides, misconfigured duplex will not cause CRC errors. C. -Original Message- From: David G. Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:08 PM To: Drew Weaver Cc: '[EM

RE: 18.0.0.0/8

2002-12-20 Thread Charles Youse
Title: RE: 18.0.0.0/8 Care to elaborate? -Original Message- From: Joe Abley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:12 PM To: jcvaraillon Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: 18.0.0.0/8 On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 13:02 Canada/Eastern, jcvaraillon wrote: > 4Today

RE: C&W Move

2002-10-16 Thread Charles Youse
What game is this? I have some gear at SJC1 and I've not heard anything. C. -Original Message- From: David Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nanog Subject: Re: C&W Move On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:23:20 -0500, Moe Allen

RE: the cost of carrying routes

2002-10-14 Thread Charles Youse
I think you're confusing commercial peering agreements with providing customers the ability to advertise their routes via BGP. Two different issues. C. -Original Message- From: Jeff S Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [

RE: iBGP next hop and multi-access media

2002-10-06 Thread Charles Youse
Really, the only way this could happen is if Router B is not announcing its routes to 172.16.16/24 and Router A has a default route to its Ethernet interface. C. -Original Message- From: Ralph Doncaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:06 PM To: E.B. Dreger C

RE: redistribute bgp considered harmful

2002-10-04 Thread Charles Youse
I've never subscribed to the "Are you sure?" concept, or preventing problems by removing functionality, effectively tying an operator's hands behind his/her back. The fact is that redistributing BGP into an IGP can have its uses (though not usually, okay, never, when carrying a full table on the