At 12:07 PM 10/30/2007, Al Iverson wrote:
On 10/30/07, chuck goolsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On a more relevant and operational sort of note, it sure would be
> nice if there were a NAMOG (North American Mail Operators Group) or
> the like to resolve these sorts of issues. Feel free to
At 01:59 PM 10/21/2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
So your recommendation is that universities, enterprises and ISPs
simply stop offering all Internet service because a few particular
application protocols are badly behaved?
They should stop to offer
At 09:50 AM 10/8/2007, Joe Greco wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Mark Newton wrote:
> > Thought experiment: With $250 per megabit per month transit and $30 -
> > $50 per month tail costs, what would _you_ do to create the perfect
> > internet industry?
>
> I would fix the problem, ie get more co
At 05:29 PM 9/6/2007, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:12:34PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote:
>
>
>
> > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing?
>
>
> It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to
AT&T to the
> time it hits my phon
At 03:23 PM 5/10/2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Thu, 10 May 2007, Patrick Muldoon wrote:
We've been under the impression that is *all* data. So for us,
things like PPPoE Sessions, just putting a tap/span port upstream
of the aggregation router will not work as you would miss any
traffic goin
At 06:13 PM 4/15/2007, Jeroen Massar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> We checked with IANA, ARIN, and the US DoD regarding 7.0.0.0/8. We
>> were told that this netblock should not see the light of day,
>
> 10/8 used to be a DoD address block, but it was also used exclusively in
> their black
At 06:09 PM 4/12/2007, David W. Hankins wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 05:58:07PM -0400, Daniel Senie wrote:
> >> 2. It's no longer necessary to manage 1500 byte+ MTUs manually
> >
> >But for this, there has been (for a long time now) a DHCPv4 option
> >
At 05:28 PM 4/12/2007, David W. Hankins wrote:
Hopefully I'll be forgiven for geeking out over DHCP on nanog-l twice
in the same week.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 11:20:18AM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> 1. It's no longer necessary to limit the subnet MTU to that of the
> least capable syst
At 09:41 PM 4/3/2007, you wrote:
> No one wants to wait for security checks while browsing. This
> information must be preprocess and "at the ready", or the Internet
> starts to feel rather slow and broken. By slowing down registry
> updates and even providing a preview of upcoming changes
At 02:15 PM 3/13/2007, Todd Vierling wrote:
On 3/13/07, Roland Dobbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are other technologies better
> suited to rural deployment, such as satellite, powerline, some cable,
> or even re-use of the previous generation's ADSL gear once metro areas
> are upgrad
At 01:33 PM 3/13/2007, Roland Dobbins wrote:
On Mar 13, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Senie wrote:
As with the deployment of telephone service a century ago, the
ubiquitious availability of broadband service will require
government involvement in the form of fees on some and subsidies
for
At 12:15 PM 3/13/2007, Neil J. McRae wrote:
> Someone please tell me there's a valid reason
> why the
> download range couldn't be variable and negotiated
There are several valid reasons, but with newer modulations more
bandwidth upstream is more and more of a reality. Now if we could
just tu
At 04:18 PM 3/2/2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Roland Dobbins wrote:
Sometimes, network operators have to take the bull
by the horns and develop their own systems to do a job that vendors
simply don't understand.
Concur - but it seems that many seem to be looking for someone
At 02:57 PM 2/11/2007, Paul Vixie wrote:
> Has anyone considered that perhaps google is not looking at beating
> Microsoft but instead at beating TIVO, ABC, CBS, Warner Cable, etc?
sure, but...
> You can't possibly believe that there is enough bandwidth to stream
> HD video to everyone, that
At 05:26 PM 10/26/2006, Fergie wrote:
Chris,
W.R.T. #2 below:
Be for real: No one ever suggested that backbone service
providers attempt to ingress filter traffic -- this is an
edge function.
I guess I'd add some clarification, though it should be obvious without.
Backbone service provider
At 07:25 AM 10/26/2006, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:03:54AM +, Fergie wrote:
>
> Randy,
>
> I don't think I implied anything of the sort.
>
> I did, however, pipe up when a BCP is mentioned that I endorse,
> and co-authored -- and likewise, cannot figure out for life of
>
At 12:40 AM 10/24/2006, David Schwartz wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 18:57 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
> I've been in and out of several colos that require you to leave your ID
> (passport/DL, and business card) up at the front desk throughout your
> visit. This could be for hours, or even f
At 10:29 PM 9/25/2006, Chris L. Morrow wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:22:34AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> ...
> > Who thinks it would be a "good idea" to have a knob such that ICMP
> > error messages are always source from a certain IP a
At 04:33 AM 9/18/2006, Jim Mercer wrote:
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 03:18:07AM -0500, Gadi Evron wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Petri Helenius wrote:
> > Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > I've been directed to put all of the internal hosts and such
into the public
> > > DNS zone for a client. My typica
plugging a very basic,
known-functional POTS phone into the network interface says they're
wrong).
Regards,
Frank
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel Senie
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:47 PM
To: Brandon Galbraith
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Hot we
At 06:26 PM 7/24/2006, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
While hardwired
(fiber/coax/copper) aggregation points usually don't have backup power on
them, most cellular towers have either batteries or generators for backup
power, correct?
We see good cable modem connectivity during power outages. Batteries
At 09:22 AM 5/23/2006, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 03:33:34 -0400
> From: Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: private ip addresses from ISP
>
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 04:30:37PM -0400, Andrew Kirch wrote:
> >
> > > 3) You are s
At 10:39 AM 5/16/2006, Tao Wan wrote:
Here is a tech report with a survey on geolocation and evasion techniques:
http://www.scs.carleton.ca/~jamuir/papers/TR-06-05.pdf
This document seems to miss one other fairly common way in which
geolocation fails: VPN. Whether a single user VPN session
At 05:25 AM 4/1/2006, Sean Donelan wrote:
But I think Mr. Stephenson's point was a network bottleneck is not always
based on the access link speed some ISPs put in their advertising. Just go
to any ISP user forum and you will see long threads complaining they can
only download X Mbps from site Y
At 08:57 AM 3/8/2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Mar 8, 2006, at 1:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At certain cities, your experience will be worse - Cogent doesn't have
peers with big boys in every city they are at - so you'll have more
chance
of being backhauled to sfo/iad than if you bou
At 12:52 PM 1/16/2006, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Paul Vixie wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Andrews) writes:
For repeat offenders create a list of networks that won't
implement BCP 38 and collectively de-peer with them telling
them why you are de-peeri
At 07:58 AM 12/26/2005, Gadi Evron wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005, Dave Pooser wrote:
>
> > This should be another thread completely, but I am wondering about
> > the liability of the individual's who have owned machines that are
> > attacking me/my clients.
>
> As a practical matter, I'd expect it
At 05:54 AM 12/14/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There are two possible ways of having a tiered system
> - one is to degrade competitors/those who don't pay,
> and the other is to offer a premium service to those
> who do pay.
The only way I know of to offer a premium service
on the same net
At 10:27 PM 12/4/2005, Church, Chuck wrote:
What about all the viruses out there that don't forge addresses?
As others have noted, these are so far lost in the noise as to not be a factor.
Sending a warning message makes sense for these.
Why? Because you need to be the one to tell the sen
At 03:12 PM 12/2/2005, Michael Loftis wrote:
--On December 2, 2005 2:02:15 PM -0600 Dennis Dayman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Interested, but I see many Sober postings and outages on other lists and
not here...has anyone been having issues? I know the ISP's are fighting
the living out of t
My results match Randy's. I looked at these blocks from several
networks (ATT, Cogent, PSI, XO, Comcast). All have the routes
showing. ICMP Echo packets do not come back via any of them. Either
the machines aren't listening, the echos are being blocked, or
there's widespread blockage.
Trace
At 01:05 PM 10/19/2005, John Dupuy wrote:
For the customer with an Internet "mission critical app", being tied
to a Tier 2 has it's own set of problems, which might actually be
worse than being tied to a Tier 1.
The key word is "might". In fact, I would posit that a Tier 2 with
multiply red
At 11:30 AM 10/18/2005, Andre Oppermann wrote:
I guess it's time to have a look at the actual scalability issues we
face in the Internet routing system. Maybe the area of action becomes
a bit more clear with such an assessment.
In the current Internet routing system we face two distinctive sc
At 04:51 PM 10/17/2005, Tony Li wrote:
Fred,
If we are able to reduce the routing table size by an order of
magnitude, I don't see that we have a requirement to fundamentally
change the routing technology to support it. We may *want* to (and
yes, I would like to, for various reasons), but th
At 01:37 PM 10/7/2005, you wrote:
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Daniel Golding wrote:
> Take-away: Do not single home. I'm shocked folks aren't figuring this out.
> If you are a webhoster or enterprise and your business model can
not support
> multiple Internet pipes, than you have a suboptimal busine
At 03:37 PM 10/5/2005, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Todd Vierling wrote:
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Matthew Crocker wrote:
This comes down to a little more than just "depeering" -- at least in the
BGP sense. There's active route filtering going on as well if connectivity
is dead; a
At 01:49 PM 10/5/2005, Matthew Crocker wrote:
So perhaps the question you should be asking is: Why didn't routes
for
these networks fall over to the other upstream peers which *are*
capable of
moving the packets? Surely MCI, AT&T, Sprint, and others would
carry the
packets to the right place.
At 03:19 PM 9/13/2005, you wrote:
So where were you the past years in multi6 and months in shim6?
Please be part of the solution and not part of the problem. (That
goes for John Payne and Daniel Senie too.)
I was there in the beginning for Multi6. When I saw the direction(s)
that were being
At 10:17 AM 9/10/2005, Joe Abley wrote:
On 10-Sep-2005, at 09:18, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
[Perhaps this thread should migrate to Multi6?]
multi6 hasn't existed for some time. The "level-3 shim" approach to
multi-homing that was the primary output of multi6 is being discussed
in shim6.
At 07:55 PM 9/6/2005, Andrew - Supernews wrote:
> "william" == william(at)elan net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
william> The above line is as clear as it gets (if the other two
william> mentions that data is to be made available to public is not
william> enough), so there this argument t
At 05:45 PM 8/23/2005, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 23-aug-2005, at 23:24, Richard Z wrote:
US is trailing other industrial countries in broadband penetration
I'm not sure that's the case, AFAIK the US holds its own.
because no carrier is interested in investing and building
an infrastr
At 12:41 PM 8/22/2005, Aaron Glenn wrote:
On 8/22/05, Simon Hamilton-Wilkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They support P/S2 / USB / Sun and serial - though are a very expensive
> way to do serial.
And (last time I looked, at least) they required an expensive,
proprietary, Windows-only authent
At 11:18 AM 8/17/2005, William Warren wrote:
I may be off base here. Can't an ips look at the traffic; say on
443 and figure out whether the traffic is malicious or not?
Well, your particular example is perhaps not the best one. 443 is
SSL, and looking within the encrypted traffic is not so
At 12:46 AM 8/16/2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Gadi Evron wrote:
>
> Randy Bush wrote:
> I'm not nearly confident enough to decide on behalf of almost
> billion other people how they should benefit from the Internet
> and how not to.
> >>>
> >>>thanks for
At 09:46 AM 8/10/2005, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 10-aug-2005, at 15:06, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Well, if you want to be really environmentally conscious, do away
with that /126 too and just use link-locals, with a single global
address per router for management and the generation of
At 10:51 AM 7/31/2005, Joe Abley wrote:
On 31 Jul 2005, at 01:23, Robert Boyle wrote:
I agree that implementation sooner rather than later is a good
idea, but all of us already have a 2-Byte AS so although we care in
theory and believe it is a good idea, we don't _really_ care as
much as t
At 02:48 AM 7/19/2005, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Daniel Senie wrote:
use the customer's billing address, attempt to determine location
based on IP address or some other voodoo? It'll be interesting to see if they
If you look at the webpage of telecomsyst
At 09:06 PM 7/18/2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
http://www.advancedippipeline.com/166400372
Interesting. No ability to opt-out, and no signup option. So will
they use the customer's billing address, attempt to determine
location based on IP address or some other voodoo? It'll be
inte
At 03:51 PM 7/7/2005, David Andersen wrote:
On Jul 7, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Andre Oppermann wrote:
Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
>
I'd have to counter with "the assumption that NATs are going
away with v6 is a rather risky assumption." Or perhaps I
misunderstood your point...
There is one thi
At 04:00 PM 7/5/2005, you wrote:
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 09:42 -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
> > Should undeliverable email (5.1.1, User unknown) be directed
> > to /dev/null rather than responded to?
>
> one current fashion is to try to catch it as early in the smtp
> receipt process as possible and
At 10:02 AM 6/30/2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
Just in case anyone was wondering, U.S. gummint agencies will
be screaming in migration agony for the next couple of years. ;-)
http://www.fcw.com/article89432-06-29-05-Web
GOSIP II anybody? Will it be different this time than it was with
At 10:18 AM 6/13/2005, Sanfilippo, Ted wrote:
Suresh,
Sorry I meant GEOBYTES --- http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm
When I enter my new /16 at this site it translates to Canada and
it shouldn't. ARIN reports the address properly on the ARIN lookup. I
have sent emails to th
At 10:16 AM 6/13/2005, Frotzler, Florian wrote:
ftp://ftp-eng.cisco.com/cons/isp/security/Ingress-Prefix-Filter-Template
s/
Florian
The original question didn't specify whether the interest was prefixes or
packet filters.
For packet filtering, the above URL is not going to help, but a rea
At 01:39 PM 4/27/2005, you wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Fergie
(Paul
Ferguson)" writes:
>
>
>I've been there -- I know how I feel about it -- but I'd love
>to know how ISP operations folk feel about this.
>
>Links here:
>http://www.vnunet.com/news/1162720
>
At a recent forum at Fordha
NOTE: Off-list, as I'm not sure this is on-topic enough to post.
At 03:19 PM 4/14/2005, Neil J. McRae wrote:
> They've recently slashed their prices to even more absurdly
> low new levels, and are actively targetting their peers'
> customers, particularly in Europe. Anyone who didn't expect
> to se
At 02:00 PM 4/14/2005, Peter John Hill wrote:
I have completely given up on relying on Comcast for dns service... For
now I will continue to use them for "transit"
If they are unwilling to implement anycast dns then I cannot trust them...
It's unclear why anycast would be required. Most or all of
At 06:10 PM 4/6/2005, JP Velders wrote:
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:54:08 -0400
> From: Adam Jacob Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Spam (un)blocking
> [ ... ]
> Second, is there some way to mark my block of addresses is owned by
> responsible responsive system administrators.
Over here in "RI
At 01:38 PM 3/24/2005, Oren Levin wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
J.D. Falk
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:37 AM
>
> On 03/23/05, "Sam Hayes Merritt, III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Subject: Re: Vonage sold over not clea
At 10:06 AM 3/24/2005, Jon Lewis wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In any case, it is not important how the message
> > gets communicated to ARIN. What is important is for
> > network operators to *TELL* ARIN what they need
At 08:41 PM 3/22/2005, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Were I running an ISP of which Utah subscribers were not a large portion
> of my customer base, I would probably seriously consider simply
> disconnecting
> all of my Utah customers.
Of course, you're making sur
At 09:08 AM 3/13/2005, Josh Vince wrote:
Here's what APC has to say about it:
http://nam-en.apc.com/cgi-bin/nam_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=jTAq9iAh&p_lva=&p_faqid=1372&p_created=1010390400&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTM4NyZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXN1cmdlIGludG8gVVBTJnBfc2VhcmN
At 01:24 PM 3/2/2005, you wrote:
Subject: Re: More on Vonage service disruptions...
> Yeah, I forgot about the regulation thing. I suppose I'd give the ISP
> a call first, but I'd expect it to be working within a few hours. But
> now that cable modem providers themselves are providing VoIP/dialt
At 09:46 AM 3/2/2005, you wrote:
advancedIPpipeline is running another article this morning
in their series of articles covering the Vonage service
disruptions that [allegedly] invlove an ISP "port blocking"
SIP connectitity between Vonage's client equipment and
Vonage's servers. While there is a
At 03:01 AM 3/2/2005, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 06:00 PM 01-03-05 -0500, Larry J. Blunk wrote:
> ftp://ftp.arin.net/info/asn.txt
>
> Lists AS number, the whois AS name, and POC handle for each AS.
>
> Jeff
>
If you are also interested in AS info outside the ARIN region,
the following file may be
At 01:54 AM 2/16/2005, you wrote:
> Odd regarding the Vonage connection. Their sitting on UU from where I
> can see and I have excellent transit to them from Comcast.
I'm on Sprint, and the service was fine for a year and a half. In recent
months it deteriorated to the point where more often than
At 04:42 AM 2/16/2005, Owen DeLong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you accept unauthenticated mail on port 587, the problem isn't the
spam you will receive, it is the spam you will forward.
ONLY if that unauthenticated sender is also permitted to RELAY.
That is not a given. The decision to relay or n
At 09:00 PM 2/15/2005, you wrote:
Although RFC2476 was published in December 1998, its amazing
how few mail providers support the Message Submission protocol
for e-mail on Port 587. Even odder, some mail providers
use other ports such as 26 or 2525, but not the RFC recommended
Port 587 for remote
At 02:33 PM 12/9/2004, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 01:50 PM 09/12/2004, Jeff Rosowski wrote:
shell1% whois vestigial3had.com
...
No match for "VESTIGIAL3HAD.COM".
What gives ? How can there be no whois info anywhere ?
You can also make whois information private, usually for an additional fee.
I wonder w
At 12:00 AM 11/30/2004, Jeff Kell wrote:
Tony Li wrote:
If there was a way that these costs were reallocated to the site that
decided to be multihomed, then the economics of the situation would
balance. Imagine paying US $10K/yr to advertise a single prefix and you
would get to a point where pe
At 06:33 PM 11/29/2004, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 28-nov-04, at 5:20, Daniel Roesen wrote:
I find it interesting that no operators are screaming that there will be
too many routes, but that all the IPv6 researchers are bringing forth
this view.
ACK. All the "oh our IPv4 DFZ table explodes tod
At 12:25 PM 11/27/2004, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 27-nov-04, at 17:43, Paul Vixie wrote:
those of us who prefer static assignment + dhcp6 over EUI64 find a /64 to
be an obscene waste of address space on a per-lan (or per-vlan) basis, but
sadly there are already some cool wireless gadgets whose
At 04:46 PM 11/25/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:09:02 EST, Daniel Senie said:
> Seems to me we wrote a document some years ago about how to address this.
> If the upstream ISP isn't willing to filter at their edges, then write
> contract language that the clie
At 07:11 PM 11/24/2004, Owen DeLong wrote:
*** PGP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION ***
*** Status: Good Signature from Invalid Key
*** Alert:Please verify signer's key before trusting signature.
*** Signer: Owen DeLong (General Purpose Personal Key) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(0x0FE2AA3D)
*** Signed: 11
At 07:32 PM 11/24/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:52:21 PST, Crist Clark said:
> Do customers demand that their ISPs route RFC1918 addresses now? (And
> that's an honest question. I am not being sarcastic.) Wouldn't the IPv6
No, they just emit the traffic anyhow. Often it trav
At 11:34 PM 11/16/2004, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
reference discussions about blocking VOIP from earlier this week (last
week?) gov'ts sometimes are made to put in place dumb laws that can not be
enforced in order to intimidate people and try to maintain the busines
At 11:17 AM 11/9/2004, Simon Lockhart wrote:
> > In today's networks, printers do NOT need global addresses.
So I'm not allowed to send stuff to my printers at home or in the office, to
be picked up by my wife, or a colleague, wherever I am on the Internet?
That's fine, if that's what network polic
At 10:10 PM 11/8/2004, Randy Bush wrote:
> To the end user of address space it is absolutely irrelevant how large
> the total space is or what the size of the routing table is. What
> matters is how much cost/effort you need to expend to get your address
> space, and what you need to use it for.
At 04:17 PM 11/8/2004, Pekka Savola wrote:
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Daniel Senie wrote:
Reason #1: Lab use. People should NEVER, EVER pick random space from
public space for doing experiments in the lab. Sooner or later something
leaks, and people get really honked off. This happened a LOT with IPv4
At 02:36 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:
On 8 Nov 2004, at 14:25, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In the end I think we need 1918 style space, and that it should
simply be set aside as a large block and expected to never be
useful in the context of other organizations, just like 1918
space is today.
Just
At 05:02 PM 10/18/2004, Crist Clark wrote:
Jim Popovitch wrote:
From Comcast Cable, at my home in Atlanta, I can ping 10.10.1.1
which is pong'ed from a private client network hanging somewhere off of
Insight Broadband's network in the North Central part of the US. Why on
god's green earth do n
At 07:51 PM 10/11/2004, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 06:03:08PM -0400, Daniel Senie wrote:
>
> I've removed the rest of your message, talking about which vendors do or
> don't have what capabilities. While I agree it'd be nice if more vendors
>
At 05:41 PM 10/11/2004, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 02:58:59AM +, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
>
> It's better than a sharp stick in the eye, I'll tell ya,
> lad.
>
> Listen to me: It's called a "best current practice" for a
> reason -- people should do it. Not sit an
ble than office.example.com
(where example.com is a small business, let's say).
4) Think about the other guy. If you have issues identifying what to block
on your inbound flows, perhaps you might think about how your naming and
other policies affect how
At 05:52 PM 9/16/2004, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Bryce Enevoldson wrote:
>
> We are in the process of updating our internet connection to 8 t1's bound
> together. Due to price, our options have been narrowed to AT&T and MCI.
> I have two questions:
> 1. Which technology i
At 10:54 PM 9/11/2004, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Vixie writes:
>
>i still can't understand why anyone would want a gmail account, free or not.
>
>not just "anyone on nanog". anyone, anywhere, ever. the reasons "why not"
>are compelling enough. but there are n
At 03:23 PM 8/4/2004, Forrest W. Christian wrote:
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Drew Weaver wrote:
> It is generally the responsibility of the ISP to provide the outgoing
> mail transport for your connected users.
This BCP seems to be changing. The new BCP which seems to be evolving
requires customers to au
At 10:05 AM 7/23/2004, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
On 7/23/04 5:29 AM, "Richard Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:27:37 -1000 Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> | all they need to do is register foo.bar with delegation to their
> | dns servers, and change a third level
At 11:56 AM 7/22/2004, you wrote:
Have anyone experienced hardware failure related to electrical spikes
coming into your datacenters or equipment locations via the telco
facilities? I am referring specifically to copper facilities for DS1's,
etc. I know that the telco must maintain good ground
At 12:50 AM 6/6/2004, Paul Jakma wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Mike Lewinski wrote:
And that provides protection against MITM attacks how?
kerberised telnet can be encrypted (typically DES - sufficient to guard MITM).
Am I the only one who really likes devices to handle their own login
authentication
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:16:44 PDT, Eric Kuhnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> The part about Telnet is truly scary... Among people who have "clue",
> the biggest reason I have heard to continue running ssh1 is for
> emergency access via hand-held smartphones or other pocket sized
> devices. The Ha
At 08:04 AM 6/3/2004, Krichbaum, Eric wrote:
Because there are legitimate reasons for async routing.
DirectPC/Isat/etc. (Satelite based services) come to mind immediately.
DirecPC has had satellite return path for a long time. Their older systems
with dialup/cable for upstream involved loading of
doesn't work outside urban areas.
-- Jonathan
Daniel Senie wrote:
At 05:22 PM 5/14/2004, you wrote:
Hello Fellow NANOG'ers,
I was just thinking about this - tell me if it sounds reasonable? The
company that I work for developed a piece of technology which, through
rate-limit statement
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> At 10:54 AM 5/4/2004, S
At 10:54 AM 5/4/2004, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Smith, Donald wrote:
> If you follow these steps outlined by SANS you should be able to
> successfully update
> and NOT get infected. This is short, easy, fully documented (with
> pictures :)
> http://www.sans.org/rr/papers/index.php?id=
At 05:56 PM 4/22/2004, Dan Hollis wrote:
Is there any way to move BGP completely out-of-band?
I know multihop may be out of the question but maybe someone should write
up a proposal for PTP links. :-)
BGP over PPP? Could be specified, but that'd require replacing the use of
TCP. Might be a bit u
At 10:26 AM 4/14/2004, Dr. Jeffrey Race wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:09:39 + (UTC), Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>>You, sure, how about the people who are not really computer literate and
>>use SMTP AUTH to send their mail from various places? Remember that
>>convinience almost always outwei
At 02:41 PM 3/29/2004, Doug Dever wrote:
Previously, Daniel Senie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> An additional note: some of the small to mid-sized propane/natural gas
> units come as packaged systems with a generator and transfer switch. These
> can be a good value and work well too
At 01:53 PM 3/29/2004, Mike Lewinski wrote:
Brian (nanog-list) wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to get a UPS to trigger a generator to start, and
to switch over to the generator power automatically or does this type of
thing just not exist?
What Patrick said.
An additional note: some of the small
At 03:21 AM 2/28/2004, Adam Rothschild wrote:
On 2004-02-27-18:43:50, Daniel Senie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> >With Vonage you have to tell them where you are located so they can set
> >your 911 service up to the proper 911 center.
>
> You can take your Vonage with
At 02:49 PM 2/27/2004, Jeff Shultz wrote:
** Reply to message from Petri Helenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 27 Feb
2004 21:19:48 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >20 years ago, 911 was able to say "unless you're the rare beast with a
cell
> >phone, basing it on the physical service address
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