A More Enlightened Approach to P2P From 'Old Europe'

2008-02-20 Thread Rod Beck
I recommend Bill St. Arnaud's daily blog: [From Dewayne Hendricks list--BSA] [Note: This item comes from friend Charles Brown. DLH] European Research Project to Shape Next Generation Internet TV http://www.p2p-next.org/ Brussels, 19 February 2008 - P2P-Next, a pan-European conglomerate of

RE: Submarine Cable Cuts Acts of Sabatoge?

2008-02-19 Thread Rod Beck
Well, I guess the experts need an education. Cable cuts do occur in deep sea. Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.

RE: What is being 'ON NET' good for these days?

2008-02-18 Thread Rod Beck
Gentlemen, It's not a question of being on-net or not. It is question of given scarce network resources, where would you prefer to use them? My suspicion is that your vendors think they can generate a higher return by using those resources to serve many customers as opposed to dedicate them

RE: What is being 'ON NET' good for these days?

2008-02-18 Thread Rod Beck
Lots of IP providers make the conscious decision not to sell private line. At locations that are connected to their backbone via fibre. And it is quite common in less important markets. Best, Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris

RE: Area Social Activity

2008-02-14 Thread Rod Beck
I am suggesting a Certified Drinkers Event in the hotel bar Sunday evening. Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829. Landline: 33-1-4346-3209. French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97.

RE: Area Social Activity

2008-02-14 Thread Rod Beck
:29 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: North American Network Operators Group Subject: RE: Area Social Activity Given that the last reported water temperature in Monterey was 52.9F, I think there will be more drinkers than divers. - billn On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Rod Beck wrote: I am suggesting a Certified

RE: Area Social Activity

2008-02-14 Thread Rod Beck
/2008 4:41 PM To: Rod Beck; Bill Nash Cc: North American Network Operators Group Subject: RE: Area Social Activity That's all they paid? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Beck Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:31 AM To: Bill Nash Cc: North American Network

RE: Abandoned ship anchor found at FALCON cable cut

2008-02-07 Thread Rod Beck
Doesn't sound like sabotage to me. In fact, it sounds like bad luck. Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829. Landline: 33-1-4346-3209. French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97. AOL

RE: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)

2008-02-05 Thread Rod Beck
There is an important point to make here. The word 'cut' is misleading as it suggests that someone cut it. The correct terminology is 'non-operational cable'. Shakespeare faces no competition from my industry ... Most cable failures occur when deep ocean currents rub the cable against rocks

RE: [admin] Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)

2008-02-04 Thread Rod Beck
I have not looked at a map. My guess is that most of these cables are linear - point-to-point. Obviously a more robust architecture is a ring. All TransAtlantic cables are rings, but can you justify the economic cost of a ring architecture to serve relatively small countries? Hmm ... Despite

RE: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)

2008-02-04 Thread Rod Beck
It's obviously the KGB, which wants the world to be dependent on Russia for oil All Russians please report to their nearest FBI office for execution and subsequent interrogation ... Regards, Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012

RE: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)

2008-02-04 Thread Rod Beck
Generally speaking, it is the undersea cable maintence folks who benefit since they do the repairs. Alcatel, Global Marine, Tyco Submarine, to name a few. It is common practice to use the same company that laid the cable, but it is not an obligation. Contracts are structured as an annual

RE: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-02 Thread Rod Beck
Gentlemen, This is my last comment on this subject. Paranoia is not a virtue. And security establishments are notorious for exaggerating threats (Soviet Union's economy and hence ability to wage war was half of what the CIA estimated). They are interest groups just like the rest of us ...

RE: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-01 Thread Rod Beck
to something like heavy weight armored on the edge of a fishing ground or winding through a treacherous bottom geology, your're talking much larger diameters and much more weight, as Rod Beck had mentioned previously. There are many variables that go into route selection and cabling which impact type

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-01 Thread Rod Beck
Of course, we all know the Mossad (Israeli secret services) and CIA did it as part of the global conspiracy against the Middle East and Third World ... In recent years I have restrained myself, but from time to time the 'old Rod Beck' manages to evade the supervision of the Super Ego

RE: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-01 Thread Rod Beck
Not at all, there have been cables in the water since 1858 (first TransAtlantic cable - telegraph). Right now there are 80 major cables out there. Give yourself 170 years of undersea cables and calculate the odds. :) Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-01 Thread Rod Beck
Well, when you have all these cables running through narrow straits or converging to the same stretch of beach, it does not strike me as at all extraordinary. An important factor is cooperation. Is there cooperation between the fiber optic guys and fishing associations to minimize hits? I

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-01 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Steve, TransAtlantic cables average three repairs a year. That's the industry average. So given 7 high capacity cable systems, that's 21 repairs a year. Now, not all damaged cables go out of service. In fact, most stay in service until the repair begins. But the public rarely hears

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-01 Thread Rod Beck
Telecommunication facilities have rarely been targets of terrorism. There is only one known case - the Tamil Tigers destroyed a central office in Sri Lanka some years back. My guess is that terrorists want to kill people, not destroy optical muxes, Class 5 switches, and the like. And the

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-01-31 Thread Rod Beck
http://www.kisca.org.uk/Web_SWApproaches.pdf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Martin Hannigan Sent: Thu 1/31/2008 12:48 PM To: Hank Nussbacher Cc: Sean Donelan; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption On Jan 31, 2008 4:30 AM, Hank

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-01-31 Thread Rod Beck
Cables are mostly damaged by fishing in coastal areas (continental shelf) or by deep undersea currents that erode the polyurethane jacket that protects them. So it is crucial that the cable be buried at least one meter and preferably two meters in coastal waters. The big fishing boats scrape

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-01-31 Thread Rod Beck
Well, take a look at this map and tell me how many TransAtlantic landing stations are within several kilometers of each other. Look at how the TransAtlantic cables converge to landing points (except for Hibernia). http://www.kisca.org.uk/Web_SWApproaches.pdf These maps are used by UK and

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-01-31 Thread Rod Beck
Message- From: Rod Beck Sent: Thu 1/31/2008 1:05 PM To: Martin Hannigan; Hank Nussbacher Cc: Sean Donelan; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption http://www.kisca.org.uk/Web_SWApproaches.pdf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Martin

RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-01-31 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Martin, Look more closely. I agree the red dots are repeaters. The yellow dots are repairs. And the yellow dots are bunched, which what you would expect for repairs. Not evenly spaced. Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris

RE: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-24 Thread Rod Beck
I am frankly shocked that some people claim that you cannot identify people by the IP address. There was a scandal in the States where a well known ISP released search records and the New York Times was able to identify individuals using the IP address together with the search records. If a

RE: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-24 Thread Rod Beck
I refer you to the following posting: Our University uses dynamic addressing but we are able to identify likely users in response to the RIAA stuff. There is a hidden step in here, at least for our University, in the IP-to-Person mapping. Our network essentially tracks the IP-to-MAC

RE: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-24 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Jeff, I agree. But gives a lot more information that most people will be comfortable disclosing. It may not guarantee identity, but it can help narrow it down to a household or billing account. I think it is time that privacy trump business interests. Roderick S. Beck Director of

RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-20 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Andrew, I don't think it is obvious that it is too expensive to justify metering in today's environment. Such a claim was definitely true a few years ago when end users were mostly sending email, instant messages, and downloading web pages, but innovation has probably changed the outcome

RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-20 Thread Rod Beck
.'' Albert Einstein. -Original Message- From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 1/20/2008 2:37 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: Scott McGrath; Rod Beck; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patrick W. Gilmore; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner

RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-20 Thread Rod Beck
In the Brave New World, the gap between the average user and the user whose peak demand determines upstream capacity needs, has widened. So the access providers will find that their infrastructure needs upgrading. In particular, the backhaul will need constant upgrading. And of course, more

RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-19 Thread Rod Beck
Because the industry needs to attract capital, which is difficult when the payback period on capital expenditures continunes to climb and hence the rate of return continues to fall. The incumbents love to talk about what a great quarter they had selling DSL. But very few (if any) will

RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-19 Thread Rod Beck
If service is metered, it doesn't imply 25 cents a minute. It would probably be based on bytes transferred and would probably be less expensive for the bulk of users than the current flat rate pricing. If the cable companies are telling the truth, roughly 5% of their customers generate 50% of

An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-18 Thread Rod Beck
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/rsstory/61251.html Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829. Landline: 33-1-4346-3209. French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97. AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth

RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-18 Thread Rod Beck
Do other industries have mixed pricing schemes that successfully coexist? Some restuarants are all-you-can-eat and others are pay by portion. You can buy a car outright or rent one and pay by the mile. Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012

Network Operator Groups Outside the US

2008-01-16 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Folks, 1. UK: UKNOF; http://www.uknof.org.uk/ I just attended the last meeting Monday. Free and a good lunch included! Please do not confuse UKNOF with the United Kingdom Nitric Oxide Forum. Nitric Oxide keeps your arteries relaxed and your blood pressure under control 2. Europe: RIPE;

Off Topic

2008-01-15 Thread Rod Beck
At the risk of incurring Mr. Pilosoft's wrath (the Putin of NANOG?), I'll looking for NANOG style ISP meetings to attend in Europe this year (France, Germany, UK, Belgium, and Netherlands). Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please bypass the list and send them directly to me. Roderick S.

RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

2008-01-15 Thread Rod Beck
I have reached the conclusion that some of these threads are good indicators of the degree of underemployment among our esteemed members. But don't worry, I am not a snitch. Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris

RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-25 Thread Rod Beck
The vast bulk of users have no idea how many bytes they consume each month or the bytes generated by different applications. The schemes being advocated in this discussion require that the end users be Layer 3 engineers. Actually, it sounds a lot like the Electric7 tariffs found in the UK

RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-25 Thread Rod Beck
On 24-okt-2007, at 17:39, Rod Beck wrote: A simpler and hence less costly approach for those providers serving mass markets is to stick to flat rate pricing and outlaw high-bandwidth applications that are used by only a small number of end users. That's not going to work in the long

RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-24 Thread Rod Beck
The vast bulk of users have no idea how many bytes they consume each month or the bytes generated by different applications. The schemes being advocated in this discussion require that the end users be Layer 3 engineers. That might dramatically shrink you 'addressable market', not to mention

RE: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets)

2007-10-24 Thread Rod Beck
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 05:36, Henry Yen wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:20:49AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: Why are no major us builders installing FTTH today? Greenfield should be the easiest, and major builders like Pulte, Centex and the like should be eager to offer it; but

RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-24 Thread Rod Beck
That misses the point. They are probably being forced to adapt by a monopoly or a quasi-monopoly or by the fact that transport into Australia is extremely expensive. The situation outside of Australia is quite different. A DS3 from Sydney to LA is worth about 10 DS3s NYC/London. It is not

RE: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets)

2007-10-24 Thread Rod Beck
Exactly. And because they installed fiber, the FCC has ruled that they do not have to provide unbundled network elements to competitors. It's this last bit that seems to be leading to lots of complaints, and it's the earlier pricing of unbundled network elements at or above the cost of

RE: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets)

2007-10-23 Thread Rod Beck
I did consulting work for NTT in 2001 and 2002 and visited their Tokyo headquarters twice. NTT has two ILEC divisions, NTT East and NTT West. The ILEC management told me in conversations that there was no money in fiber-to-the-home; the entire rollout was due to government pressure and was

RE: New TransPacific Cable Projects:

2007-09-24 Thread Rod Beck
Here is a TeleGeography news article worth a quick read: http://www.telegeography.com/cu/article.php?article_id=19783email=html It appears that that article assumes that capacity will not be increased by WDM products...have those that been applied on those links already reached the cables'

RE: New TransPacific Cable Projects:

2007-09-22 Thread Rod Beck
It is not obvious to me that there is a Pacific cable capacity glut. For example, I sold a DS3 from LA to Hong Kong for $6K MRC whereas the last time a wholesale TransAtlantic DS3 rivaled that figure was 2001. Now you could argue that one needs to look at pricing on a mileage-adjusted basis

RE: New TransPacific Cable Projects:

2007-09-22 Thread Rod Beck
On Sep 22, 2007, at 5:26 AM, Rod Beck wrote: It is not obvious to me that there is a Pacific cable capacity glut. For example, I sold a DS3 from LA to Hong Kong for $6K MRC whereas the last time a wholesale TransAtlantic DS3 rivaled that figure was 2001. Not to mention

RE: Cogent latency / congestion

2007-08-20 Thread Rod Beck
As opposed to 'unintentionally sabotaged'? I think there is some redundancy there ... Sorry for the cheap shot, it was just too tempting. Roderick S. Beck Director of EMEA Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.

RE: Extreme congestion (was Re: inter-domain link recovery)

2007-08-15 Thread Rod Beck
Is this a declaration of principles? There is no reason why 'Tier 1' means that the carrier will not have an incentive to shape or even block traffic. Particularly, if they have a lot of eyeballs. Roderick S. Beck Director of EMEA Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris

RE: US transit providers with slightly better than average International connectivity?

2007-08-13 Thread Rod Beck
How about Telia or T Systems or PCCW? All of those carriers are worthy of scrutiny. Roderick S. Beck Director of EMEA Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829. Landline: 33-1-4346-3209 AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth

Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-06 Thread Rod Beck
Can anyone give a breakdown of the different kinds of content deliver networks? For example, we have Akamai, which appears to be a pure Layer 3 network that is tailored to pushing relatively small files like web pages and we have Lime Light Networks, which is a mix of Layer 1 and Layer 3, that

RE: TransAtlantic Cable Break

2007-06-22 Thread Rod Beck
Protected 10 gig waves NYC/London are extremely expensive. Say $60K or more per month. So it usually makes sense for the Layer 3 guys to lease diversely routed 10 gig waves and do the protection themselves using MPLS or load balancing or some other protocol about which I know little ...

RE: UK ISP threatens security researcher

2007-04-20 Thread Rod Beck
Gentlemen and Ladies, I think we should shut down this line of argument. Enjoy the beautiful weather here and Europe and have a good weekend. Regards, Roderick S. Beck Hibernia Atlantic 30 Dongan Place, NY, NY 10040 http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Landline: 1-212-942-3345 Wireless:

RE: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread Rod Beck
I rarely post, but that is clearly a problem. The Americans seem to believe in the presumption of guilt and the infallibility of accusation. As an American born and bred I can hardly be accused of bias. Clearly spam is a serious problem in terms of draining network resources, but

RE: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread Rod Beck
is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert Einstein. -Original Message- From: John Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 4/2/2007 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rod Beck Subject: Re: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..] I rarely post

RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted

2007-01-21 Thread Rod Beck
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sean Donelan Sent: Sun 1/21/2007 8:13 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Rod Beck wrote: Unfortunately it is news

RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted

2007-01-21 Thread Rod Beck
Well, I work for an undersea cable system and we are quite to willing to share the information under NDA that is required to make an intelligent decision. That means the street-level fiber maps and details of the undersea routes. However, there is a general reluctance because so many carriers

RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted

2007-01-21 Thread Rod Beck
Hi John, There I disagree. Not with your statement, which is correct, but the implication. Most transatlantic cables are in the same backhaul conduit systems. For example, the three systems that land in New Jersey use the same conduit to backhaul their traffic to New York. The other three

RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted

2007-01-21 Thread Rod Beck
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sean Donelan Sent: Sun 1/21/2007 11:39 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Rod Beck wrote: Well, gentlemen, you

Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted

2007-01-20 Thread Rod Beck
What's really interesing is the fragility of the existing telecom infrastructure. These six cables were apparently very close to each other in the water. In other words, despite all the preaching about physical diversity, it was ignored in practice. Indeed, undersea cables very often use the

RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted

2007-01-20 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Brian, Unfortunately it is news to the decision makers, the buyers of network capacity at many of the major IP backbones. Indeed, the Atlantic route has problems quite similar to the Pacific. :Roderick S. Beck :EMEA and North American Sales :Hibernia Atlantic This e-mail and any