Demand for 10G connections

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, William B. Norton wrote: Why are folks turning away 10G orders? In Hollywood, San Francisco and a few other cities with large concentration of movie/entertainment industries 10G network connections have been sold for at least a year, not necessarily connected to the "Inte

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multicast streaming may be a big win when you're only streaming the top 5 or 10 networks (for some value of 5 or 10). What's the performance characteristics if you have 300K customers, and at any given time, 10% are watching something from the "long

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Gian Constantine wrote: Those numbers are reasonably accurate for some networks at certain times. There is often a back and forth between BitTorrent and NNTP traffic. Many ISPs regulate BitTorrent traffic for this very reason. Massive increases in this type of traffic would

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, Joe Abley wrote: Setting aside the issue of what particular ISPs today have to pay, the real cost of sending data, best-effort over an existing network which has spare capacity and which is already supported and managed is surely zero. As long as the additional traffic doe

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, Andrew Odlyzko wrote: P.S. I have been puzzled by the fixation on streaming for over a decade. Is there really a much of a difference between streaming and buffering? Is XM radio streaming or buffering? Is TiVo streaming or buffering? Is AMC Theatres streaming or bufferi

Re: Collocation Access

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Daniel Golding wrote: Time for a colocation reality check. Why would facilities need to have tight security? Lets count off the reasons... Don't forget the biggie. These are "shared use facilities." People who buy space in collocation facilities already have lower sec

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

Bah, Humbug. Optical taps don't decrement TTLs or generate ICMP packets. San Francisco Bay Area cable modem networks have transitioned from @Home to AT&T Broadband to Comcast, so there is probably all sorts of expedient things done to keep it working through those transitions and IP addresse

Network security practices survey

On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Fergie wrote: Sorry for the top-post, but wanted to retain context here. Also, sorry for the specific product mention, but much of is mentioned below is something that we are doing with ICSS/BASE: http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/nss/icss/evaluate/overview.htm In add

RE: Verizon PSTN continued

On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Chris L. Morrow wrote: Working with 2 other carriers on a similar issue, response I rec'd was congestion due to automated political dialers. Not sure if I believe that or not... you'd think they'd have systems monitoring that and trimming down the 'fat'? or can they do that

Re: adviCe on network security report

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Robert Boyle wrote: someone who can help. I wish abuse was used as intended instead of my every idiot programmer and script writer for their own "helpful" stuff we never asked for nor does it help us at all nor does it help the users. Unfortunately that is a problem with e

Re: adviCe on network security report

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Dave Rand wrote: I did a study on this a few years ago. I sent out about 20,000 abuse reports, all by hand, to various network around the world. They all came from this email address, and were clearly identified as non-robotic, personal messages. There were "many" bounces.

Re: advise on network security report

Hint, hint, hint. When the abuse and security folks at ISPs give suggestions on how to best work with them, its sometimes a good idea to listen. If you just want to shout "You Suck" at them, please have a seat in the waiting room and someone will be with you later, possibly before the heat d

Re: 10,352 active botnets (was Re: register.com down sev0?)

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Gadi Evron wrote: Jose may be a bit conservative with numbers, but he has good data and shares it, which is more than I can say for some people. http://www.asu.edu/security/aware/2005/lippard.htm

Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?)

k ISPs on every continent would be interested. On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote: No. I think that is indicative of the problem. Don't you? -- Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote: I don't want to detract from the heat of this discussion, as

BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?)

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote: I don't want to detract from the heat of this discussion, as important as it is, but it (the discussion) illustrates a point that RIPE has recognized -- and is actively perusing -- yet, ISPs on this continent seem consistently to ignore: The consistent implemen

10,352 active botnets (was Re: register.com down sev0?)

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, let's talk about "worst-case ddos". Let's say, 50mpps (I have not heard of ddos larger that that number). Let's say, you can sink/filter 100kpps on each box (not unreasonable on higher-end box with nsd). That means, you should be able to filter

Practical Common Practice for Collocation Access

Is it enough of a problem, network operators would be interested in publishing some Practical Common Practices (I hesitate to call it a BCP) collocation facilities could follow for some common access control scenarios? Tenent access, pre-screened carrier, unscreened vendor, etc. http://www.n

Re: Collocation Access

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Craig Holland wrote: Is this some new trend or have I just gotten lucky in the past? Wouldn't someone like AT&T be better served by giving their employees some company issued ID that they can submit to secure facilities? I know it wouldn't be government issued, but would at

CO fire St. Johns Newfoundland

Its been a while since the last big telephone central office fire. 100,000+ lines are out of service in St. John's Newfoundland (Canada, the other part of North America).

Zimbabwe satellite Internet link restored

Zimbabwe's Reserve Bank authorized release of TelOne's, the state communications operator, payment of satellite charges to Intelsat in foreign currency. Intelsat restored its satellite link, which was the primary Internet connection for most ISPs in Zimbabwe. To raise hard currency, TelOne

Microsoft Support (was Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day)

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Paul Vixie wrote: For assistance with Microsoft security issues in the US, call (866) PC-SAFETY last but not least, according to http://isotf.org/zert/ there is a non-MSFT patch for the VML thing. i don't expect ISP's to recommend its use, due to liability reasons, but me

Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Paul Vixie wrote: and yet, when i consider my nontechnical friends with their DSL and cablemodem connections, i know that if they get hit by an exploding DLL, their ISP is one of the likely places they will place a call. For assistance with Microsoft security issues in the

Zimbabwe satellite service shutdown for non-payment

Intelsat has shutdown the primary satellite link for Zimbabwe's state communications company for non-payment, which has affected most of the ISPs in the country.

Re: comast email issues, who else has them?

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: Perhaps some of the comcast folks reading might take a better/harder look at their customer service tickets and do a 'better' job (note I'm not even half of a comcast customer so I'm not sure that there even IS a problem...) on this issue? I am

Re: comast email issues, who else has them?

On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Fergie wrote: Ack: X-Originating-From should be mandatory. Mandatory and the Internet? Heck even our standards are called "requests." You don't have to exchange E-mail with either Google, Comcast or any other Mail Service Provider if you don't want to. You don't even

Re: BCP Question: Handling trouble reports from non-customers

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Owen DeLong wrote: I'm curious how people feel about this. As I see it, there are a number of possible responses: I think you omitted at least one other option. Contact your own ISP, i.e. the provider you pay, and report the problem. You make the choice how much support

RE: comast email issues, who else has them?

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Tony Li wrote: I've taken the rather extreme approach of bouncing everything through Gmail first. Let's see them block Google. ;-) Patient: Doctor, Doctor, It hurts when I do this. Doctor: Don't do that. There are lots of Mail Service Providers. AOL, Comcast, Gmail, Ya

Re: Spain was offline

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gunther Stammwitz wrote: Spain (at least the .es-part) was offline nobody reported it...? What's going on? In the past you were faster... DNS operational problems were briefly discussed on the DNS operations mailing list earlier. Although there are regular attempts to tie

Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: This morning's Omaha Weird Harold has a front-page item about the City installing free wiffy hotspots around town. It may be time for you to reconsider the options on the buggy-whip plant. Any information about how the City plans to solve

Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Lots of groups state that ISPs must take responsibility for lots of things. Lots of ISPs together stated that ISPs must take responsibility for a few things. The movie industry joined together and introduced the Hays Production Code. The co

Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: The MAAWG bcps, for example, state that ISPs must take responsiblity for mitigating outbound spam and abuse. The RIAA, for example, states that ISPs must take responsibility for mitigating copyright infringement by its users. Lots of groups s

Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On 8/10/06, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shouldn't most of freemail/webmail services be doing their own outbound spam and virus checking now? Yes, Sean - they are. But it is far, far more productive for the source of

Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Hank Nussbacher wrote: The key here is the bottom Received with the mshttpd. Only once it hits telgua.com.pt (this is just an example of the dozens I see per day), does it get converted into smtp, but the xx.56.145.19 IP is the one that gets listed in spam BLs. Basically

Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rick Wesson wrote: Last sunday at DEFCON I explained how one consumer ISP cost American business $29M per month because of the existence of key-logging botnets. Why did you attribute responsibility for the cost only to the consumer ISP? How much of the cost should be attri

Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rick Wesson wrote: Last sunday at DEFCON I explained how one consumer ISP cost American business $29M per month because of the existence of key-logging botnets. Why did you attribute responsibility for the cost only to the consumer ISP? How much of the cost should be attr

Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: We (ISPs) already do have that power, we can disconnect misbehaving subscribers. And in cases like this, we should keep them off the 'net until they've cleaned up their PC. Botnet C&Cs are not naturally occuring phenomena. Relying only on defensive s

Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Danny McPherson wrote: > Right, hence my point. By and large, SPs don't have the time or > resources to police the greater Internet, and therefore, they respond > in a very reactive fashion when some malicious activity *that* warrants > action dictates. Taking out known botne

Re: Detecting parked domains

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > I have over 100 domains on my personal web server. _NONE_ of them > are parked, although not all have web pages (and of the ones that do, > none have ads). I tried not to attribute malice on the part of domain parking operators. I am looking for a

Re: Detecting parked domains

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain > > name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? > > AFAICT, the main challenge is to define what "parked" means in the > context of your application. There seems to be D

Detecting parked domains

Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? I'm hoping there is other method besides chasing a list of constantly changing IP addresses being used by the parking advertising companies.

Re: Hot weather and power outages continue

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > I'm surprised nobody said anything about the (apparently regional) utility > outage in NoVA on Saturday. There have been several around the country. Secaucus, NJ, various cities near Los Angeles and the SF Bay Area, not to mention the power qua

Hot weather and power outages continue

Due to the hot weather in many parts of the US, there have been various power outages. Some large outages have been caused by severe storms, but mostly the heat has just overloaded power distribution equipment. The good news so far is the Net has shown very few disruptions due to the heat and so

Copper thefts in california

In addition to the traditional backhoe threat, as the price of copper increased so has the threat of people stealing telephone trunk cables containing copper wire. http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_4021500 Since Jan. 1, there have been 148 reports of copper wire theft in San Bernardino Cou

Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115102893799688389.html In Event of Big Web Disruption, U.S. Is Ill-Prepared, Study Says By VAUHINI VARA June 23, 2006; Page B2 The U.S. is poorly prepared for a major disruption of the Internet, according to a study that an influential group of chief executives

Re: Tor and network security/administration

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > The problem I see is that this technology will be used (literally, > not ideally) solely for harassment (especially via IRC). I do not > see any other practical use for this technology other than that. > The whole "right to privacy/anonymity" argument

WSJ: Big tech firms seeking power

Since power consumption was a topic at the last NANOG meeting. subscription required, or buy a copy of the Wall Street Journal from a newstand http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115016534015978590.html Surge in Internet Use, Energy Costs Has Big Tech Firms Seeking Power By KEVIN J. DELANEY and RE

Re: Screwed Again: House Rejects Net Neutrality

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Fergie wrote: > Sorry to interrupt the ever-so-interesting discussions on the > list, but this is actually important. > > Sorry for the editorial comment -- now for the facts. The current bill is mostly about Cable TV licensing, with some other stuff like VOIP 9-1-1 thrown in,

Re: Are botnets relevant to NANOG?

On Fri, 26 May 2006, Gadi Evron wrote: > I honestly want to know why a precise number matters? It will only be > higher than our facts based upon our different observation points. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/30/us/30identity.html Credit card companies point to new monitoring systems that hav

Re: Are botnets relevant to NANOG?

On Fri, 26 May 2006, John Kristoff wrote: > What I'd be curious to know in the numbers being thrown around if there > has been any accounting of transient address usage. Since I'm spending I worked with Adlex to update their software to identify and track dynamic addresses associated with subscr

Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming

On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gadi Evron wrote: > I hate for this to be a quote by me, but Super Worms which steal credit > card, account data, login info. etc. for banks, credit card companies and > ecommerce sites online number at the millions a day. Including repeat > customers. > > As to signle banks,

Re: ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

On Tue, 23 May 2006, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > Indeed. To be honest, I am more interested in NANOG-related operational > > issues involved, which I am not sure many here will be able to discuss in > > case they had experience on the subject. So let us put privacy and legal > > issues aside for

Re: Local Loop Install.

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Martin Hannigan wrote: > It is not unrealistic to charge them a free for your space. The landlord will > charge them for conduit access to and throughout the building, they are going > to use your power, your facilities, etc. Carriers > don't put racks in collocation > for fre

Larry the lobster

I wonder if Ruth reads NANOG? I knew that AT&T did this, but I never knew the name of the person with the job before. = http://online.wsj.com/article/SB114610182322237181.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Ruth Gauweiler, a 55-year-old grandmother with a shock of red hair,

Fixing outside plant isn't an easy job

Maintaining the physical plant we all depend on is the job of a lot of dedicated individuals. Its not an easy job, and sometimes it can be a dangerous job. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/04/16/worker_electrocuted_while_fixing_telephone_pole/ SHARON, Mass. --A repa

Re: Common Carrier Question

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Derek J. Balling wrote: > In other words, what juice would the FCC have against MomNPopISP.com > who decided to block VoIP? Vonage has claimed in testimony to the US Senate and other places that at least one cable company and at least wireless ISP company is blocking VOIP and

Re: Common Carrier Question

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > One lost and one won. The reason was that Prodigy monitored its > content for things like foul language, Compuserve did not. As a > result, most ISPs after that would very, very intentionally not look > at what their customers were doing so they c

Listen to all the companies spin (was Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant")

On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Randy Bush wrote: > when you have a giant company with a broken business model, > send in the lawyers and lobbyists to extend it a few years. > after all, it's kinda working for the mpa and riaa. Several companies made presentations at the same Bank of America investor's confe

Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant"

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Todd Vierling wrote: > (...The frustrating part about those figures is that I might as well have > FTTH, because my DSLAM is less than 50 feet from my premises -- it's in a > green-monster canister on the corner of the block. The modem says I *could* > attain better than 9Mbps

RE: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant"

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Edward B. DREGER wrote: > Again, I don't see how AT&T can claim "DSL is fast enough" in one > breath, then turn around and say they're ready to deliver IPTV. This has been covered in other public presentations. The access link for VDSL2 has about 25Mbps at the proposed distan

Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant"

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Daniel Senie wrote: > Since AT&T provides nearly all of the transit bandwidth to Comcast in > New England, this thread says to me, more or less, "those folks at > Comcast claim speeds they can't deliver, because the backbone they > use -- which happens to be AT&T's -- is too co

Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant"

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060331-6498.html > > "In the foreseeable future, having a 15 Mbps Internet capability is > irrelevant because the backbone doesn't transport at those speeds," he > told the conference attendees. Stephenson said

Re: Problem with IANA blackhole servers

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Sebastian Wiesinger wrote: > I'm also thinking about routing the blackhole /24 to one of our > DNS-Servers to resolve all of the RFC1918 space locally, but that will > take a little bit more time. I would suggest looking at the AS112 web site for infor

Re: Problem with IANA blackhole servers

> Perhaps someone on this list has a shortcut to get the server back to > normal again? See the following document on how to configure your own DNS servers so you don't needlessly query external DNS servers for RFC1918 addressses. http://www.chagreslabs.net/jmbrown/research/drafts/draft-brown-p

Re: Security control in DSL access network

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Peter Dambier wrote: > I cannot tell you wether this is a DSLAM or a BRX but I guess it is both > in a single one box. Not unless Germany is a very, very small country. The Holy See and Monaco might be small enough to serve the entire country from a DSLAM. DSL is distance s

Re: Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Mark Smith wrote: > A few years back there was a photo floating around of a fibre that had > been destroyed by a stray bullet. Does anybody know of it, or have a > copy ? This is more common in some areas of the country than other areas. Shooters will take potshots at microwa

Re: Security control in DSL access network

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Joe Shen wrote: > Is there any books or papers on carrier level DSL > access network and LAN access network? Specifically, > it should analysis the futures of DSL network and > security problems in DSL networks. You probably want to start with the DSL Forum

Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=463928&category=BUSINESS&newsdate=3/23/2006 A fire Tuesday that tore through a popular bakery in Cohoes left 70,000 Time Warner Cable subscribers without TV service. Some who also rely on the cable company for their high-speed Internet or t

Final report: national diversity assurance initiative

ATIS has issued its final reports about its circuit national diversiety assurance initiative. "The NDAI report confirmed our suspicions that diversity assurance is not for the meek," Malphrus added. "It is expensive and requires commitment by the customer to work closely with carriers in p

Re: DNS Amplification Attacks

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That ISPs still do not filter inbound traffic from their customers to > prevent source spoofing is amazing. Heck, some people still can't get reverse DNS setup correctly for their IP addresses. And in-addr.arpa has been around for decades. > host 6

Re: Security problem in PPPoE connection

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Joe Shen wrote: > > >What's your method to deal with such problem? Will > > CHAP in PPPoE help? > > > > That may help against password sniffing but won't > > help against sniffing > > traffic by an active attacker once the session has > > been established. > > Also, you'll hav

Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If people actually *knew* how to do this differentiation any better than > flipping the quarter I have in my pocket, we wouldn't be having this > discussion. Yep. Although it should have been obvious, a problem with quarantine systems is most users

Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware]

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > it's also not just a 'i got infected over the net' problem... where is > that sean when you need his nifty stats :) Something about no matter what > you filter grandpa-jones will find a way to click on the nekkid jiffs of > Anna Kournikova again

Re: Triple Play [was: CAUTION: Potentially Dumb Question...]

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Christian Kuhtz wrote: > If you're near real time, you have lots of options actually. And I > would contend that p2p can be efficient for broadcast distribution > actually. There already are several startups doing exactly that for > large scalability. Yep. Lots of startups h

RE: Triple Play [was: CAUTION: Potentially Dumb Question...]

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Bora Akyol wrote: > > He hasn't taken broadcast TV delivery into account in the > > Triple Play scenario. You gotta plumb them packets good for that... > > I don't watch anything live anymore, all via Tivo. If Tivo could > do bittorrent and download the content, then would I n

Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > Until someone invents a universally recognized system where you can call > and say "Hi I'm CCIE #12345, I'm certified to know what I'm talking about > and I have an actual network issue, please transfer me to someone with > clue", we're going to c

Another day another virus, not that virus the other virus

The Russian Trading System (stock exchange) was shutdown due to a computer virus (worm, maleware, whatever you want to call it). Not the computer virus the press has been talking about for the last week, but a different computer virus. http://en.rian.ru/business/20060203/43307462.html IT compu

I never realized so many trains derailed until my Internet kept going out

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/technology/6490915/detail.html It was the third multi-day outage experienced by Comcast Western Slope customers. The two previous also came as a result of train derailments. One Aspen Comcast customer told the Aspen Times that he learned a lot about train derailm

Destructive computer viruses from history

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Gadi Evron wrote: > "Even so, 300,000 infected users worldwide is not a terribly large > amount when compared to previous worms like Sober or Mydoom. However, > with this worm it isn't the quantity of infected users, it is the > destructive payload which is most concerning."

Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? [ & Re: cyber-redundancy ]

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Frank Coluccio wrote: > Which standards body are you referring to that has such a working group? I guess forwarding private messages to public lists should be expected. In any case, you can look at the National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC) which inc

Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? [ & Re: cyber-redundancy ]

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Frank Coluccio wrote: > To answer Sean Donelan's question, yes, enterprise customers and/or their > agents > _do _need to have specific information on the routes in which their leased > facilities (and even dark fiber builds) are placed, ephemeral as those data > might > be

Re: is this like a peering war somehow?

This is the USA. They will be sued no matter what they do. They will be sued even if they do nothing. The use of the ambigious pronoun is deliberate. They are both big enough (both goliths, no davids) that attorneys will target them both for real and imagined vices. Peering battles are a good

cyber-redundancy

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Agree that a level of security is required, but the real value is in > customers like banks knowing where their fiber is, so when they lease > service for a back up provider they know it is not in the same ditch. Does the bank actually need that info

Re: AW: Odd policy question.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Jeffrey I. Schiller wrote: > Let me attempt to bring this back to the policy question. > > Does someone have the *right* to put one of your IP addresses as an NS > record for their domain even if you do not agree? > > Registrar policies imply that this is so, and has been this

Dual fiber outages causes service disruption

http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=9680 At the time the cut occurred west of Phoenix, Sprint Nextel was conducting emergency maintenance to its fiber optic network near Reno Junction, Calif., which is near Reno, Nev. The traffic passing through Reno was being temporarily routed through the

net-op: traffic loads as the result of patching

So, maybe an operational question. What are people seeing as far as network traffic loads due to WMF patching activity, e.g. auto-update and manual downloads? Microsoft has used several CDNs in addition to its own servers to distribute the load in the past.

RE: WMF patch

On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Fergie wrote: > Ilfak's server was overwhelmed -- the temporary 'path' is > not being hosted by CastleCops: > > http://www.castlecops.com/forums.html Just explain to your users the difference between clicking on links on the site and other "fix your PC links" on the page whi

RE: The Qos PipeDream [Was: RE: Two Tiered Internet]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > Maybe part of the discussion problem here is the overbroad use of 'QOS in > the network!' ? Perhaps saying, which I think people have, that QOS Probably. Users, executives and reporters are rarely careful talking about the technical details. T

Re: Whatever happened to intelligence in the applicattion [Was: Re: The Qo s PipeDream]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Fergie wrote: > Doesn't anyone really remember the whole smart-v.-stupid network > analogy? Not meaning to start a flame war here, but trying to stick > all of the intelligence back into the network is not exactly a win-win > proposal. Trying to stick it all in the applicatio

RE: The Qos PipeDream [Was: RE: Two Tiered Internet]

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Fergie wrote: > I think Bill Manning hit on it a couple of days ago; Bill said > something about the Internet being about best effort and QoS > should be (various) levels of 'better-than-best effort' -- and > anything less that best effort is _not_ the Internet. AT&T, Global

Re: Two Tiered Internet

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Tony Li wrote: > I believe it when it gets to my street. So far, the reality is > Really Slow DSL, with service and installation times measured in weeks > at costs that aren't competitive. So yes, I missed all of that. There are currently a couple of million IPTV users worl

Re: Two Tiered Internet

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Tony Li wrote: > Because they're telephone companies. Oh, that's right. I forgot. They're evil. > Because they can't manufacture bandwidth that isn't there. Cable > co's provide broadband with a fraction of the loop capacity. For > telco's to offer premium service, they h

Re: Two Tiered Internet

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > but do i get "the Internet"? ... your claim is that > i am not paying for it. my bills indicate that i -am- > paying for it. (regardless of priority... after all, the > Internet is "best-effort" ... and w/ QoS, i don't get t

Re: Two Tiered Internet

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > Do you really think the cablecos will be significantly less evil than the > > telcos? I'm not as optimistic about the result of a legislated duopoly. > > So far they seem to be not quite so evil (minus their port blocking for > some services,

Re: Two Tiered Internet

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Blaine Christian wrote: > http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/12/13/ > telecoms_want_their_products_to_travel_on_a_faster_internet/ > > My commentary is reserved at this point... but, it does make me > shudder. Comcast has been advertising in press releas

Hurricane Katrina communication failures

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/09/AR2005120902039.html During Katrina, virtually every system failed: Internet communications, radio transmissions, cell phones, even backup gear such as satellite phones handed out by federal relief workers after the storm. Even when

Re: Viral Cure Could 'Immunise' The Internet

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Keep in mind the study was done by physicists, who while brilliant, > cannot be bothered with operational realities that prevent their > equations from being elegant. > > Still an interesting hypothesis on how to leverage network structure to > fight i

RE: QoS for ADSL customers

On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Ejay Hire wrote: > Going back to your original question, how to keep from > saturating the network with residential users using > bittorrent/edonkey et al, while suffocating business > customers. Here goes. I still don't see the requirement for application level classificatio

Re: QoS for ADSL customers

On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Kim Onnel wrote: > Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or none solution to cap the > download stream traffic, our upstream will not recieve marked traffic from > us, so what can be done ? Step 1: Please identify how you identify your Corp. customers. Once you exp

Re: QoS for ADSL customers

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Joe Shen wrote: > To Kim's situation, IP packet header based (or access > interface based) traffic classification is pratical. > If application based traffic classification is > required, tools from sandvine or packeteer may have to > be sitted between ERX1440 and Cisco7609. I

Re: QoS for ADSL customers

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Kim Onnel wrote: > The links are now almost always fully utilized, we want to do some QoS to > cap our ADSL downstream, to give room for the Corp. customers traffic to > flow without pain. While some people will cry network neutrality and think the Yellow Pages must sell only

<    1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   >