Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-30 Thread Daniel Golding
Title: Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings Im not sure outrage is the appropriate way to describe this. AOL is probably looking at this from the support point of view. They get a certain number of support calls complaining about messenger service spam/trickery. The will get many fewer

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-28 Thread Fred Baker
At 11:13 AM 10/23/2003, Sean Donelan wrote: How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's Windows computers? Interesting question from several angles. Here's the flip side. Our corporate IT department likes

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-28 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Fred Baker wrote: Personally, I don't ask my ISP or my IT department to randomly change the configuration of my computer. I am very happy for them to suggest changes, but *if* I agree, *I* want to install them when it is convenient for *me*, not when it is convenient for

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-28 Thread Henry Linneweh
I agree that changing one's computer is not the ISP or even the Corp IT departments job, and could compromise valuable work and or personal information for the individual user, depending on their setup, security software etc and other applications. I also would preceive that as a real threat to

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-27 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: b. Disable file/printer sharing That roots MSDE, and it's not an even vaguely obvious connection between the two. That's one of the problems with fiddling with Windows - screwing with one thing often breaks something apparently totally unrelated.

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I believe this has resulted in a few lawsuits from companies such as Gator, which take offense to their adware being removed by the ISP... Of course, 99% of the time it's installed via a click-wrap EULA for some 3rd party software such as Kazaa. It would be just as easy to uninstall it via

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-25 Thread J Bacher
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: Microsoft has asked ISPs to make changes on its behalf, such as enabling the XP firewall. But is it wise for an ISP to change the settings on a user's computer? If Microsoft is reluctant to make the changes itself, what problems is the ISP

RE: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Brian Knoblauch
-Original Message- How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's Windows computers? I've already seen an interesting side effect from a disabled messenger service... With one of those

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Chris Brenton
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 00:22, Jared Mauch wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:13:59AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7278 How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS
Most ISPs don't provide users with a heavy-duty client that replaces or patches lots of the operating system's functions, though may will offer friendly customized browsers for users who want them, and a few misguided carriers will provide drivers for PPPoE or other evil excuses for protocols

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS wrote: Most ISPs don't provide users with a heavy-duty client that replaces or patches lots of the operating system's functions, though may will offer friendly customized browsers for users who want them, and a few misguided carriers will

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-23 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:13:59AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7278 How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's Windows computers? Sounds good to me. The

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-23 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: Without notice AOL has been modifying the operating system settings of users with AOL software installed on Windows computers. Although complaints about Windows' Messenger pop-up spam continue to grow, few This is a nice thing, but I recall some

RE: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-23 Thread Terry Baranski
How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's Windows computers? Sounds good to me. The potential for these users to be less-than-educated enough about the existance of this feature means

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-23 Thread chuck goolsbee
How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's Windows computers? Thankfully our focus is hosting Colo, not access, so our pool is smaller and (theoretically) smarter. However this hasn't stopped us from

RE: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-23 Thread Brian Wallingford
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Terry Baranski wrote: :The without notice part is perhaps somewhat unsettling. I can :appreciate that attempting to explain this type of change to the AOL :user base would be challenging, but I'd submit that third-party software :making OS changes like this without the