> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:53:09 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Todays Internet is much bigger, more diverse, and engineered by
> people who have a lot higher skill level based on hard-won
> experience.
>
> Why do businesses keep supporting these "cheerleader"
> analyst groups who want to tr
>: > Plainly stated, routers no longer have a home in the core of the
network.
>: > "You might have found a router there five years ago, but most
certainly
>: > you have a switch today," said Yankee Group vice president Zeus
Kerravala.
>:
>: What brand of switch is this guy selling? And what i
> > Maybe the Yankee Group is a subsidiary of Ncatal Ventures.
>
> That was my thought.
> Its "Dood, Where's my Core?" all over again!
It got lost in san franCisco.
Alex
Heh. Forwarding, of course.
- Dan
On 10/30/03 2:15 PM, "E.B. Dreger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> DG> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:52:54 -0500
> DG> From: Daniel Golding
>
>
> DG> Lets all be thankful they are now using ASICs, though! All
> DG> that software based routing was making me nervo
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, E.B. Dreger wrote:
> SR> What brand of switch is this guy selling? And what is he
> SR> smoking? Sure would be interesting to find out :)
>
> Maybe the Yankee Group is a subsidiary of Ncatal Ventures.
That was my thought.
Its "Dood, Where's my Core?" all over again!
"E.B. Dreger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> So STP is now the control plane protocol of choice? ;-)
no, not at all - remember he said 'layer 3 switch', stp is no
longer needed, just like those router things ;)
/joshua
>
> Eddy
> --
> Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Di
DG> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:52:54 -0500
DG> From: Daniel Golding
DG> Lets all be thankful they are now using ASICs, though! All
DG> that software based routing was making me nervous - five
DG> years ago :)
Routing or forwarding?
Eddy
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Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division
: Yankee Group declares core routing obsolete (was Re: Anybody using
GBICs?)
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:25:43PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:48:01AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm looking i
Hmm. Don't you just love it when folks say things like "Layer 3 Switches are
better than routers". Its very illuminating as to clue level.
I suppose what they were trying to say, is that products that were designed
as switches, but are now running routing code, are superior to products that
were
SR> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:18:28 -0500
SR> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian
SR> What brand of switch is this guy selling? And what is he
SR> smoking? Sure would be interesting to find out :)
Maybe the Yankee Group is a subsidiary of Ncatal Ventures.
Eddy
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Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick
RAS> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:08:01 -0500
RAS> From: Richard A Steenbergen
RAS> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=75&e=18&u=/nf/22581
RAS>
RAS> Plainly stated, routers no longer have a home in the core of the network.
RAS> "You might have found a router there five years ago, but m
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
:
: Richard A Steenbergen writes on 10/30/2003 1:08 PM:
:
: > Plainly stated, routers no longer have a home in the core of the network.
: > "You might have found a router there five years ago, but most certainly
: > you have a switch today," said
Richard A Steenbergen writes on 10/30/2003 1:08 PM:
Plainly stated, routers no longer have a home in the core of the network.
"You might have found a router there five years ago, but most certainly
you have a switch today," said Yankee Group vice president Zeus Kerravala.
What brand of switch i
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Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
| On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:25:43PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
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|>On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:48:01AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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|>>I'm looking into doing some research that will make use of GBICs(Gigabit
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:25:43PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:48:01AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking into doing some research that will make use of GBICs(Gigabit Interface
> > Converters),
> > but I need to know how many of you are us
> Lance;
>
> Having been on both sides of the fence, I know that it is hard
> for router development engineers, especially at legacy vendors, to know
> what is really going on in the market. But for ISPs operators, the
> audience of this group, your question comes across as a "duh" moment.
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:36:26 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To be more clear, I'm specifically referring to Gigabit Ethernet Converters and
> not
> SFPs for POS or SONET. So, to reprhase, where in your network topology, are yo
> u
> using Gigabit Ethernet, specifically GE interfaces using GBI
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> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:54 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Anybody using GBICs?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:48:01AM -0800,
> > [EMAIL PROTE
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To be more clear, I'm specifically referring to Gigabit Ethernet
> Converters and not SFPs for POS or SONET. So, to reprhase, where in
> your network topology, are you using Gigabit Ethernet, specifically GE
> interfaces using GBICS?
I think you alr
erver connections, peering points
etc. ?
Thanks to all who have already replied privately.
-Lance-
> -Original Message-
> From: Haesu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Anybody using GBIC
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:48:01AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I'm looking into doing some research that will make use of GBICs(Gigabit Interface
> Converters),
> but I need to know how many of you are using GBICs in your networks?
> If you are using them, where do they fit into your top
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:48:01AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I'm looking into doing some research that will make use of GBICs(Gigabit Interface
> Converters),
interesting info too: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0310/wodelet.html
> but I need to know how many of you are using GBICs in you
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:48:01AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm looking into doing some research that will make use of GBICs(Gigabit Interface
> Converters),
> but I need to know how many of you are using GBICs in your networks?
> If you are using them, where do they fit into your topol
I'm looking into doing some research that will make use of GBICs(Gigabit Interface
Converters),
but I need to know how many of you are using GBICs in your networks?
If you are using them, where do they fit into your topology?
-Lance-
Agilent Laboratories
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