Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Stephen Perciballi
Agreed. Take www.dshield.org for instance. They aggregate logs from various sources and send complaints to the upstream provider. This is something that would work for you Jason. Working for an AUP department at an ISP, we gladly accept automated complaints. Sending the complaint downstream f

Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Daniel Medina
Not wanting to be ripped to shreds here, I think it's still worthwhile to alert people to, say, Slammer-infected hosts on their networks. Sure, the good folks are already monitoring their networks for hosts sourcing things like that, and they're also the ones that will know how to deal with au

Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Joel Jaeggli
I have, according to my ids around 400pps arriving at my home network that don't belong there. if I payed attention to all of it I'd be busy, if I generated abuse reports and fired them off it would generate a lot of noise... random portscans, dos backsplash and worm traffic don't really rise

Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 08:24:16AM -0800, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > > if you automate abuse reporting you can basically assume that the reciver > will automate abuse handling. since that has in fact happened as far as i > can tell the probably of you automated asbuse replaies ever reaching a > hum

Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Brian Bruns
On Monday, December 29, 2003 11:24 AM [GMT-5=EST], Joel Jaeggli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you automate abuse reporting you can basically assume that the reciver > will automate abuse handling. since that has in fact happened as far as i > can tell the probably of you automated asbuse replai

Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Doug Luce
When we get something that looks automated, we send back a reply saying "We received this, if you'd like us to take action, please have a human reply." I've been thinking of instead having them send us a cryptographic hash of their message, saying that we MUST have all such notifications validate

Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Joel Jaeggli
if you automate abuse reporting you can basically assume that the reciver will automate abuse handling. since that has in fact happened as far as i can tell the probably of you automated asbuse replaies ever reaching a human who cares or can do something about it is effecetivly zero. joelja O

Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
Jason Lixfeld wrote: > > ...Has there been development of some > sort of intelligent unix land app that can understand Cisco syslog > output, find the abuse departments of the sourcing networks and send > them off a nice little FYI? With rare exceptions, I'd say don't bother, even if you do come

Re: Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Stephen Miller
try LogDog to act on the syslog data...it sends all syslog log files through a pipe and scans for specific data...then you can email the complete message to anyone. It can have a negative performance impact depending on the number of sustained syslog logs being generatedbut I used it on a s

Automated Network Abuse Reporting

2003-12-29 Thread Jason Lixfeld
We're a small company but none the less are inundated with firewall logs reporting numerous attempts to find holes in our network; c'est la vie. Seeing as how we are small, we don't have the resources to go through and send emails off to the abuse departments of each network sourcing the probe