Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-20 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Thus spake Claydon, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep. There's plenty of fiber between the two buildings, so we may go that route. Anyone know if there's any easy way to limit bandwidth on the PA-POS-OC3 adapters? PA-POS-OC3MM$6000/card

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-20 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:13 AM To: Claydon, Tom Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes Subject: Re: Bandwidth Control Question Thus spake Claydon, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED

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2003-12-20 Thread ken emery
, ken emery bye, ken emery -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:13 AM To: Claydon, Tom Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes Subject: Re: Bandwidth Control Question

Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Claydon, Tom
Title: Bandwidth Control Question Hello, A customer of ours in the next building would like 6M of Internet bandwidth from us, so we would wire a DS3 between the two buildings for connectivity. The question is: how to we control the amount of bandwidth that we give them? Could we use rate

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Charles H. Gucker
Tom, If you are using Cisco's on both ends, you can easily do: interface SerialX/0 bandwidth 6144 ip address IP Address 255.255.255.252 no ip redirects no ip directed-broadcast no ip proxy-arp load-interval 30 dsu bandwidth 6144 no dsu remote accept scramble cablelength 450

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Bryan Heitman
Title: Bandwidth Control Question Why not simply use configuration option Cisco gives you to set your DS3 to 6 meg dsu bandwidth X Dan, your suggestion will unncessarily tax his equipment. Bryan - Original Message - From: Dan Ellis To: Claydon, Tom ; [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Michel Py
Bryan Heitman Why not simply use configuration option Cisco gives you to set your DS3 to 6 meg dsu bandwidth X That's what I do, works fine.   Dan, your suggestion will unncessarily tax his equipment. Not only that, but the rate-limiting on the input interface will likely force the

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Dan Ellis
The only way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay -Original Message- From: Michel Py [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:58 AM To: Bryan Heitman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Bandwidth Control

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Claydon, Tom
Title: RE: Bandwidth Control Question Thanks to everyone who responded. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in a PA-MC-2T3+ card for the 7206...I have at least four PA-MC-T3 cards, and they're not going to work the way I want them to (unless I rate-limit them). Thanks,   = TC   -- Tom

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2003-12-19 Thread Roy
Title: Bandwidth Control Question Why waste a T3 port. Run ethernet if they are that close. Don't overlook the benefit of using the old thin-net for 200m. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Claydon, TomSent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600, Claydon, Tom wrote: Thanks to everyone who responded. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in a PA-MC-2T3+ card for the 7206...I have at least four PA-MC-T3 cards, and they're not going to work the way I want them to (unless I rate-limit them). This

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Claydon, Tom
Hi Mark, Yes, it's a point-to-point link. = TC -Original Message- From: Mark E. Mallett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:36 AM To: Claydon, Tom Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Bandwidth Control Question On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Roy wrote: Why waste a T3 port. Run ethernet if they are that close. Don't overlook the benefit of using the old thin-net for 200m. I'd be cautious about metal between buildings, but Ethernet on fiber might make sense.

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Mark E. Mallett wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600, Claydon, Tom wrote: Thanks to everyone who responded. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in a PA-MC-2T3+ card for the 7206...I have at least four PA-MC-T3 cards, and they're not

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Brennan_Murphy
Title: Message Or wireless. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RoySent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:30 AMTo: Claydon, Tom; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Bandwidth Control Question Why waste a T3 port. Run ethernet

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:36:08AM -0600, Claydon, Tom wrote: Hi Mark, Yes, it's a point-to-point link. Somebody else mentioned ethernet; I know (without specific recommendation though) that you can run fiber and use some inexpensive media converters on each end to produce something that

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: Roy wrote: Why waste a T3 port. Run ethernet if they are that close. Don't overlook the benefit of using the old thin-net for 200m. I'd be cautious about metal between buildings, but Ethernet on fiber might make

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Jared Mauch
] Subject: RE: Bandwidth Control Question Why waste a T3 port. Run ethernet if they are that close. Don't overlook the benefit of using the old thin-net for 200m. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:45:08AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Mark E. Mallett wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600, Claydon, Tom wrote: Thanks to everyone who responded. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in a PA-MC-2T3+ card for

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jared Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The PA-MC-2T3+ will do both channelized and unchannelized DS3 with the same PA. This makes it easier on some of us who need both and for doing sparing of hardware. It's worthwhile to spend the extra cash if you think you're

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Roy
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Bandwidth Control Question Or wireless. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RoySent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:30 AMTo: Claydon, Tom

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Claydon, Tom
] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bandwidth Control Question Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: Roy wrote: Why waste a T3 port. Run ethernet if they are that close. Don't overlook the benefit of using the old thin

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread sthaug
The quite annoying thing about that is switching a PC-MC-2T3+ interface from channelized (the default) to unchannelized causes a cbus complex restart, which interrupts traffic through the router for a period of time (the time varies based on the number of interfaces in the router). Even with

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Claydon, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep. There's plenty of fiber between the two buildings, so we may go that route. Anyone know if there's any easy way to limit bandwidth on the PA-POS-OC3 adapters? PA-POS-OC3MM$6000/card$38.71/Mbit PA-FE-FX$3200/card$32.00/Mbit

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Randy Bush
PA-2FE-FX$5000/card$25.00/Mbit $2,000 on ebay randy

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2003-12-19 Thread Fisher, Shawn
Subject: Re: Bandwidth Control Question PA-2FE-FX$5000/card$25.00/Mbit $2,000 on ebay randy

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Bruce Robertson
Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? No one send you a box of rocks? I've had 100% success buying on eBay. The Cisco TAC issue has never come up; they NEVER ask me where I got something. Of course, the only hardware that has ever failed on us has been exactly one Catalyst 2924 switch,

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Michel Py
Fisher, Shawn Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? No one send you a box of rocks? That's the question the UPS driver once asked when delivering a 7507; the box did contain a router though and no rocks. What about Cisco SPAR for TAC support? For some, it has come to a point where

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Roy
: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes Subject: Re: Bandwidth Control Question Thus spake Claydon, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep. There's plenty of fiber between the two buildings, so we may go that route. Anyone know if there's any easy way to limit bandwidth on the PA-POS-OC3 adapters? PA

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Brian Knoblauch
Interestingly enough, sometimes it's cheaper to buy a small unmanaged switch with a fiber uplink port than to buy a media converter... -Original Message- Media converters are much cheaper than specialized FX cards like these. A 10Mbps converters are just $99 each and

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Randy Bush
Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? yep. use rating system No one send you a box of rocks? nope What about Cisco SPAR for TAC support? new cisco parts randy

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread jlewis
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Randy Bush wrote: PA-2FE-FX$5000/card$25.00/Mbit $2,000 on ebay And for the 7500s, you can get POSIP full cards for $250-$1000 depending on fiber type, also from ebay. -- Jon Lewis [EMAIL

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread E.B. Dreger
R Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:05:55 -0800 R From: Roy (CC list trimmed) R Media converters are much cheaper than specialized FX cards R like these. A 10Mbps converters are just $99 each and 100Mbps R is $150. Definitely more attractive than the work needed to prevent ground loops when using