Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Jeroen Massar
Jim Popovitch wrote: With the thousands of datacenters that exist with IPv4 cores, what will it take to get them to move all of their infrastructure and customers to IPv6? A L2 switched (or Hubbed ? :) 'datacenter' doesn't need to do much hardware wise, install IPv6 stacks on the hosts,

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Per Heldal
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:13:40 +0100, Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim Popovitch wrote: With the thousands of datacenters that exist with IPv4 cores, what will it take to get them to move all of their infrastructure and customers to IPv6? A L2 switched (or Hubbed ? :)

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Kevin Day
On Dec 21, 2005, at 2:09 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: With the thousands of datacenters that exist with IPv4 cores, what will it take to get them to move all of their infrastructure and customers to IPv6? Can it even be done or will they just run IPv6 to the core and proxy the rest? -Jim

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread James
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:50:14AM -0600, Kevin Day wrote: [ .. snip .. ] 1) IPv6 on the internet overall seems a bit unreliable at the moment. Entire /32's disappear and reappear, gone for days at a time. The most common path over IPv6 from the US to Europe is US-JP-US-EU. I

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Michael . Dillon
8) Once we got everything on the network and server side ready for and usable on IPv6 we discovered that a lot of our client's applications just had no idea what to do with IPv6 connections. Many PHP applications broke because they expected $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] to fit within 15

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Kevin Loch
Kevin Day wrote: 9) Once we started publishing records for a few sites, we started getting complaints from some users that they couldn't reach the sites. It is possible that a broken 6to4 relay somewhere was causing problems. Running your own local 6to4 relay (rfc3068) will improve

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 11:13:31AM -0500, Kevin Loch wrote: Kevin Day wrote: 9) Once we started publishing records for a few sites, we started getting complaints from some users that they couldn't reach the sites. It is possible that a broken 6to4 relay somewhere was causing

RE: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Hannigan, Martin
Kevin Day wrote: 9) Once we started publishing records for a few sites, we started getting complaints from some users that they couldn't reach the sites. It is possible that a broken 6to4 relay somewhere was causing problems. Running your own local 6to4 relay (rfc3068)

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Kevin Loch wrote: Kevin Day wrote: 9) Once we started publishing records for a few sites, we started getting complaints from some users that they couldn't reach the sites. It is possible that a broken 6to4 relay somewhere was causing problems.

RE: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread James Jun
-Original Message- From: David Raistrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:33 AM To: James Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?) On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, James wrote: There are already *several* sane

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Kevin Day
On Dec 21, 2005, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Loch wrote: Kevin Day wrote: 9) Once we started publishing records for a few sites, we started getting complaints from some users that they couldn't reach the sites. It is possible that a broken 6to4 relay somewhere was causing problems.

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Kevin Loch
Kevin Day wrote: We wouldn't have met the proposed 2005-1 requirements for a /44 (we don't come close to 100,000 devices), and lose functionality if we're required to advertise it through a single aggregated address. The high requirements of the current 2005-1 were so thoroughly rejected

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
be followed up. Regards, Jordi De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Responder a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:15:41 + Para: Kevin Loch [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?) On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 11:13:31AM -0500

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:50:14AM -0600, Kevin Day wrote: 1) IPv6 on the internet overall seems a bit unreliable at the moment. Entire /32's disappear and reappear, gone for days at a time. That's certainly true for people not doing it in production. But that ain't a problem as they aren't

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Kevin Day
On Dec 21, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Daniel Roesen wrote: 1) IPv6 on the internet overall seems a bit unreliable at the moment. Entire /32's disappear and reappear, gone for days at a time. That's certainly true for people not doing it in production. But that ain't a problem as they aren't doing

Re: Deploying IPv6 in a datacenter (Was: Awful quiet?)

2005-12-21 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:59:15PM -0600, Kevin Day wrote: I admit, my experiences are with only a tiny number of users, so I may have just had bad luck. But, I had trouble finding any of our IPv6 guinea pigs that didn't take a perceptibly slower route to us over 6 than they do for 4.