Re: Diffserv service classes

2004-11-21 Thread Joe St Sauver
Hi, #There are certainly applications and users out there that would #like to use all of the bandwidth possible, but do not need #to step on other, more bit sensitive, services. They might want to, but unfortunately we (the Internet2 community as a whole) have had limited success in helping them

Re: Diffserv service classes

2004-11-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
No doubt what you say is true, however, the typical eVLBI site is not part of the Internet2 (and also doesn't need the TCP aspects of the Scavenger service). There are certainly applications and users out there that would like to use all of the bandwidth possible, but do not need to step on othe

Re: Diffserv service classes

2004-11-21 Thread Joe St Sauver
Hi, Less-than-best effort traffic as implemented via the Internet2 Scavenger Service (see: http://qbone.internet2.edu/qbss/ ) never really took off; for example, see http://netflow.internet2.edu/weekly/20041108/#dscp which notes that Scavenger Service (DSCP=8) tagged traffic makes up less than 1%

Re: Diffserv service classes

2004-11-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:09:31 -0500 (EST) Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Vicky wrote: > > interesting read at: > > http://qbone.internet2.edu/papers/non-architectural-problems.txt > > There is a long history of problems. But Internet2 also shows a success > for

Re: Diffserv service classes

2004-11-21 Thread Petri Helenius
Sean Donelan wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Vicky wrote: interesting read at: http://qbone.internet2.edu/papers/non-architectural-problems.txt There is a long history of problems. But Internet2 also shows a success for Diffserv, namely there is demand for a "worse" effort. Are a dozen differn

Re: Diffserv service classes

2004-11-20 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Vicky wrote: > interesting read at: > http://qbone.internet2.edu/papers/non-architectural-problems.txt There is a long history of problems. But Internet2 also shows a success for Diffserv, namely there is demand for a "worse" effort. Are a dozen differnt classes useful to a

Re: Diffserv service classes

2004-11-20 Thread Vicky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ietfreport is timing outhere's another url for this draft. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-diffserv-basic-classes-04.txt interesting read at: http://qbone.internet2.edu/papers/non-architectural-problems.txt regards, /vicky Sean Donel

Diffserv service classes

2004-11-18 Thread Sean Donelan
In the continuing effort to make Diffserv useful on the Internet, the Transport Area working group has the draft: http://ietfreport.isoc.org/idref/draft-baker-diffserv-basic-classes/ The draft has a little bit for everyone. Lots of rope/flexibility for application developers. But have any networ