Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-04-05 Thread Simon Waters
Have to admit to being surprised at DENIC poor placing. The only time I did a comparison, DENIC were by far and away the best European TLD maintainers. Okay there wasn't much competition, and I was looking at purely technical aspects of how the TLD were arranged, but the results were so good

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-04-03 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Roesen) wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 01:48:51PM +0200, Elmar K. Bins wrote: The other: ICMP has been rate-limited. It might not be the way to test those locations. An mtr output would be more interesting :) mtr uses ICMP too. Yes, but it also shows where

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-04-02 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy Bush) wrote: a.nic.de, 100 packets, 7% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 163.454/199.368/494.708 ms c.de.net, 100 packets, 2% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 15.071/46.131/724.957 ms z.nic.de, 100 packets, 3% packet loss

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-04-02 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 01:48:51PM +0200, Elmar K. Bins wrote: The other: ICMP has been rate-limited. It might not be the way to test those locations. An mtr output would be more interesting :) mtr uses ICMP too. Regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-04-01 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Florian Weimer) wrote: As always: Never trust a statistic you have not faked yourself ... I doubt that DENIC will ever publish the technical part of its bid, so this isn't convincing. Like you already admitted on the DENIC list, this has of course been made public,

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-04-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bill Woodcock: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Florian Weimer wrote: Yes, the selection of criteria could be biased. Or Telcordia compared apples and oranges when it compared Verisign's 100 ms to DENIC's 200 ms (or what the actual numbers where). Yeah, I was a little curious

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-04-01 Thread Bill Woodcock
a.nic.de is with RIPE in Amsterdam f.nic.de and z.nic.de are in Frankfurt c.de.net. is with Savvis in Santa Clara s.de.net is with Deutsche Telekom in Germany l.de.net I see over Mediaways/Telefonica DE in London (what a poor choice, scary) For what it's worth, a highly

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
That's milder than the critique offered by SWITCH in the last round.

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: The Register article: The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect.

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* The Register article: The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect. Apparently, the main criticism is that DENIC developed the

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan ... funny, the first item of work email i read today was this: the Neulevel SRS is currently down, .biz registrations are therefore not possible. We will inform you as soon as the registry is online again. your metric

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 31.03.2005 22:36 Florian Weimer wrote Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan or Verisign in many aspects, so it's a non-issue in the end. But only if you judge according to Telcordia's metric. As always: Never trust a statistic you have not faked yourself ... Arnold -- Arnold

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine: Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan ... funny, the first item of work email i read today was this: the Neulevel SRS is currently down, .biz registrations are therefore not possible. We will inform you as soon as

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Arnold Nipper: On 31.03.2005 22:36 Florian Weimer wrote Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan or Verisign in many aspects, so it's a non-issue in the end. But only if you judge according to Telcordia's metric. Yes, the selection of criteria could be biased. Or Telcordia

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Paul Vixie
The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect. can it BE? is this game RIGGED? what a SHOCKING SURPRISE! (not.) based strictly

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Florian Weimer wrote: Yes, the selection of criteria could be biased. Or Telcordia compared apples and oranges when it compared Verisign's 100 ms to DENIC's 200 ms (or what the actual numbers where). Yeah, I was a little curious about the composition of

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread John Levine
The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect. Apparently, the main criticism is that DENIC developed the core of its operations (the

Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure

2005-03-31 Thread Alexander Koch
On Thu, 31 March 2005 14:42:34 -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Florian Weimer wrote: Yes, the selection of criteria could be biased. Or Telcordia compared apples and oranges when it compared Verisign's 100 ms to DENIC's 200 ms (or what the actual numbers