Jeff,
In a nutshell you're saying do nothing.
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Jeff Ogden
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Subject: RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs?
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Of
>J.A. Terranson
>Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:01 PM
>To: Nigel Clarke
>Cc: Richard A Steenbergen; Jerry Eyers; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs?
>
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:08:03PM -0700, Nigel Clarke wrot
> Blackholing the RIAA and hating them is pointless, that is what they
are
> there for. Blackholing them accomplishes nothing.
> If you want to cause change you need to go after the labels. The
labels
> are
> the member organizations which fund the RIAA. It's the labels who
need to
> be stoppe
Avleen Vig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
>
> > Ok, start listing IPs...
> > If you have them (and can confirm them of course :P), I'm certain a dozen
> > people on this list would put up a bgp feed before you can say
> > "blackhole". Heck I'm ce
OOPS - my typo sorry! (standing in the corner with egg on my face ;-)
## On 2002-08-22 11:10 +0300 Rafi Sadowsky typed:
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RS> AV> Start here:
RS> AV> avleen@apple:avleen : host -t MX riaa.org
RS> AV> riaa.org mail is handle
## On 2002-08-22 08:04 +0100 Avleen Vig typed:
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AV> Start here:
AV> avleen@apple:avleen : host -t MX riaa.org
AV> riaa.org mail is handled (pri=50) by mail3.riaa.com
AV> riaa.org mail is handled (pri=10) by list.sparklist.com
AV> riaa.org mail is handled (pri=10) by mail.riaa.com
AV> riaa.or
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> Ok, start listing IPs...
> If you have them (and can confirm them of course :P), I'm certain a dozen
> people on this list would put up a bgp feed before you can say
> "blackhole". Heck I'm certain people would have something to do if you
> eve
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, David U. wrote:
> Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > Surprisingly enough, they didn't seem to care too much that their
> > website was offline fora few days. You never can tell though.
>
> And that's exactly the point. I hate to continue this OT thread but../
>
> The RIAA
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nigel Cl
arke" writes:
>
>Start now, do whatever it takes.
>
>Amongst the paperwork passed to congress, RIAA must have indicated where
>it's hackers would work from. Why not start there?
>
I assume you're talking about the Berman bill -- for the full text, see
ht
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> Surprisingly enough, they didn't seem to care too much that their
> website was offline fora few days. You never can tell though.
And that's exactly the point. I hate to continue this OT thread but../
The RIAA is a decoy. Their sole purpose is to fight for the
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 21:30:27 EDT, Richard A Steenbergen said:
> And what IPs precisely are you planning to deny? So far its all idle
> threats, we have no idea where they plan to launch their scans or hacking
> attempts from, or even if they have any clue how to hack anything. I
> highly doubt th
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> From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:30 PM
> To: Nigel Clarke
> Cc: Jerry Eyers; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs?
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:08:03
uot;polite" letter from a NANOG representative should do the trick.
>
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> J.A. Terranson
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> To: Nigel Clarke
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
J.A. Terranson
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:01 PM
To: Nigel Clarke
Cc: Richard A Steenbergen; Jerry Eyers; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs?
> On
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Nigel Clarke wrote:
> > Start now, do whatever it takes.
> > Amongst the paperwork passed to congress, RIAA must have indicated where
> > it's hackers would work from. Why not start there?
> What they plan to do sounds incredibly i
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Nigel Clarke wrote:
> Start now, do whatever it takes.
>
> Amongst the paperwork passed to congress, RIAA must have indicated where
> it's hackers would work from. Why not start there?
What they plan to do sounds incredibly illegal. Now if we could arrange
for their top man
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:08:03PM -0700, Nigel Clarke wrote:
> >
> > Why don't larger ISPs follow through on this? Simply deny RIAA any
> > access...
>
> And what IPs precisely are you planning to deny? So far its all idle
> threats, we have no idea where they plan to launch their scans or
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:36:29PM -0700, Nigel Clarke wrote:
> Start now, do whatever it takes.
>
> Amongst the paperwork passed to congress, RIAA must have indicated where
> it's hackers would work from. Why not start there?
>
> NANOG should not sit on this.
>
> Trust me, if RIAA tried to fu
would get the message.
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From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:30 PM
To: Nigel Clarke
Cc: Jerry Eyers; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs?
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:08:03PM -0700, Nigel Clarke wrote:
>
> Why don't larger ISPs follow through on this? Simply deny RIAA any
> access...
And what IPs precisely are you planning to deny? So far its all idle
threats, we have no idea where they plan to launch their scans or hacking
attempt
Is someone mainitaining a server I can get an eBGP feed from that will
blackhole all RIAA IPs? If not, how do you propose to block the RIAA?
Ralph Doncaster
principal, IStop.com
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Nigel Clarke wrote:
>
> Why don't larger ISPs follow through on this? Simply deny RIAA any a
Why don't larger ISPs follow through on this? Simply deny RIAA any access...
>
>
> http://www.informationwave.net/news/20020819riaa.php
>
> Too bad it's just a small ISP.
>
> - Joost
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