At the moment there is no clear procedure for any ISP to
follow to even
get a best guess as to whether an advertisement should be accepted or
not.
What about requiring that a route appear in an RIR database period?
Maybe that would be a good start. It's easy enough to do but virtually
no
Hello Kia , In line
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Kai Schlichting wrote:
On 6/9/2003 at 4:06 PM, Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, you are announcing 196.1.1.0/24 and only that, fine, but are you
allowed to announce that prefix? Are you Centre for Monitoring Indian
Fear leads to Hate, which leads to Evil, the way of the darkside ;)
RIR's are not and should not be in the business of dictating what
goes into the routing table, or what label is used on what goes
into the routing table.
I think part of the issue here is that to many providers don't filter
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Sorry for the latenight not-completely-operational question :) but it
seems as though there is some abmiguity in the current
process/procedure/rules and I'd like to atleast start some discussion on
the topic.
I'm not as interested in proving
Well as some of you know as of late I've been involved in investigations of
number of hijacked ip blocks (about 40 and looking at more) and can tell
you that for greater majority of companies (especially for companies that
had /16s but even for companies that had /24) the records on internet
On Monday, Jun 9, 2003, at 02:36 Canada/Eastern, John Brown wrote:
RIR's are not and should not be in the business of dictating what
goes into the routing table, or what label is used on what goes
into the routing table.
Just the other day I heard of a new customer of an ISP in Toronto who
had
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Michel Py wrote:
Chris,
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
So, for an example, if I steal ASN 8143 (already stolen so its
mute) and I'm 'a good guy', all I want to do is run a network
no spam/abuse eminates from it,
Question: if you are a 'good guy', why didn't you
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Joe Abley wrote:
The ISP in Toronto asked for an LOA, and got one, neatly presented on
company letterhead, and accompanied by e-mail from the tech contact for
the block confirming that the request to advertise the block was
authorised.
Is that enough justification
On Monday, Jun 9, 2003, at 12:53 Canada/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the RIRs contain the information required to answer those
questions, you'd expect them (or their data) to be involved in the
process of answering them.
They really don't. Thus far, when space is assigned, the RIRs
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Michel Py wrote:
Chris,
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
excellent point :) the distinction between 'good' and 'bad' was
just non-abuser/abuser. Certianly ARIN's requirements for ASN
ownership are simple enough, be multihomed and have a 'unique'
routing policy. If
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 06:06:50PM +0100, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
RIPE at least uses a hierarchical authorisation scheme which means you
cannot register routes to an ASN and prefix you dont have authorisation
on, where authorisation on those blocks is passed down from supernets
and
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, John Brown wrote:
Fear leads to Hate, which leads to Evil, the way of the darkside ;)
RIR's are not and should not be in the business of dictating what
goes into the routing table, or what label is used on what goes
into the routing table.
Certainly not, but if the
Andy Dills wrote:
What sorts of 'unique' routing policies justify an ASN?
ISP has a corporate customer that decides to multi-home. While ISP is
not multi-homed themselves, they must have an ASN to speak BGP and pass
routing information between their corporate customer and their provider.
So
On 6/9/2003 at 4:06 PM, Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, you are announcing 196.1.1.0/24 and only that, fine, but are you
allowed to announce that prefix? Are you Centre for Monitoring Indian
Economy ?? Or is this your direct customer and you are just the sat-link
So, with all this lifting the curtains on hijacked ASN's and ipblocks
recently I have a few general question...
1) Should the rules be uniformly applied?
2) Should these rules be applied even when something 'bad' might happen?
3) How much involvment should ARIN have in enforcing these rules?
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