Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:32:43 CDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: of all this President Bush insists the Iraq war is necessary. What bull...I'm surprised a member of the press hasn't killed Bush.. I'm not at all surprised - the press has, as a whole, given the entire Executive branch and most of

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-22 Thread Michael Sinatra
Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:09:10 GMT Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't even have to touch the hardware. :-) http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/11/72051 Did you see what the GAO found when they audited the US-VISIT network? The summary

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-21 Thread Zach White
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:11:33PM -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: The problem is that if you have a second path of entry with lesser security protocols, attackers will find a way to get themselves onto that path. For instance, imagine the terrorists have papers that look legit but they know

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-21 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Zach White wrote: At some point our networks have to remain useful. If they can be shut down for hours or days at a time are they really secure? The first question to ask in designing something is what you're trying to accomplish. This is a mailing list of network

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-21 Thread leeyao
The government is completely incompetent. Public schools are in horrible condition, government networks constantly get failing or D grades, and on top of all this President Bush insists the Iraq war is necessary. What bull...I\'m surprised a member of the press hasn\'t killed Bush..

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-20 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] While the goals of the system, as identified by the GAO, include a brief phrase about facilitate legitimate travel and trade, the rest of the report appears to entirely ignore it. ... it appears that the designers of both the technical and operational

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-20 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Stephen Sprunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such secondary procedures are okay in the banking world, where you can back out transactions that an audit reveals are fraudulent after the fact. The same does not apply to letting persons across a

For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
This is rich .. LAX airport shut down for hours because of a PC with a duff network card. Now I wonder which major contractor has the contract to set up and run the network at LAX, and how much in damages and SLA costs he is looking at, when an airport gets shut down from 2 pm to midnight.

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-18 Thread Steven Haigh
On 18/08/2007, at 5:09 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: This is rich .. LAX airport shut down for hours because of a PC with a duff network card. Now I wonder which major contractor has the contract to set up and run the network at LAX, and how much in damages and SLA costs he is looking at,

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-18 Thread Lixia Zhang
On Aug 18, 2007, at 12:09 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: This is rich .. LAX airport shut down for hours because of a PC with a duff network card. Now I wonder which major contractor has the contract to set up and run the network at LAX, and how much in damages and SLA costs he is

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-18 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Steven Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/08/2007, at 5:09 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2007/08/lax-outage-is-b.html Wow, one little article, sooo much FUD. This quote really takes the cake:

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-18 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:09:10 GMT Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't even have to touch the hardware. :-) http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/11/72051 Did you see what the GAO found when they audited the US-VISIT network? The summary is at

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 8/18/07, Steven Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh noes! The terrerists can kill all the airports by installing dodgy network cards in a machine! I wonder if the machine had an RTL8139 card in there? ;) Well, if it is a mess of legacy equipment in there .. there's a high chance that

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-18 Thread Roy
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: ... Well, if it is a mess of legacy equipment in there .. there's a high chance that everything is connected to a hub, and the faulty network card was flooding the network and causing collisions. ... Even more horrible thought: Maybe it was token ring

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-18 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: ... Well, if it is a mess of legacy equipment in there .. there's a high chance that everything is connected to a hub, and the faulty network card was flooding the network and