Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 30 May 2006 15:39:31 -, Peter Corlett said: > I can sort of see the point in ULAs, although if you want a globally unique > address, why not just use a public address? Maybe you don't *want* a public address. In fact, I *know* sometimes you don't want one - because you *tell* us you do

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-30 Thread Peter Corlett
Stephen Sprunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > It's extremely ugly, but that's what one gets for using private address > space. This exact scenario was a large part of why I supported ULAs for > IPv6. I can sort of see the point in ULAs, although if you want a globally unique address, why not

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-27 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sat, 27 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How was that achieved if their users still are within 41/8 >locally? Route filter and PBR. I don't think so. If you're an end user assigned the "private version of" 41.0.0.1, how do you reach a web site on the real 41.0.0.1?...short of craz

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> How was that achieved if their users still are within 41/8 >locally? Route filter and PBR. hjan

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-26 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "william(at)elan.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, 26 May 2006, Bill Woodcock wrote: Presumably they're double-natting. I had to do that once for Y2K compliance for three large governmental networks that were all statically addressed in net-10 and wouldn't/couldn't renumber in time.

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-26 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:44:04AM -0700, william(at)elan.net wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 May 2006, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 May 2006, Mikisa Richard wrote: > > > Can't be sure what they did, but I received an e-mail asking me to > > check > > > on my connectivity to them an

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-26 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Fri, 26 May 2006, william(at)elan.net wrote: > The only way I see to achieve this is to have dns resolver > on the fly convert remote addresses from same network into some other > network and then NAT from those other addresses. Split-horizon DNS, external to the clients, but

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-26 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2006, Mikisa Richard wrote: > Can't be sure what they did, but I received an e-mail asking me to check > on my connectivity to them and well, it worked. Presumably they're double-natting. I had to do that once for Y2K compli

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-26 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Mikisa Richard wrote: > Can't be sure what they did, but I received an e-mail asking me to check > on my connectivity to them and well, it worked. Presumably they're double-natting. I had to do that once for Y2K compliance for three large governmental networks

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-26 Thread steve
well they're not really hijacking it - as in they are not announcing it or affecting unrelated networks on the internet its no different than a private firewall/security policy, except we know they're doing it because they're broken not because they intend to be denying connectivity to those n

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-25 Thread Mikisa Richard
william(at)elan.net wrote: On Wed, 24 May 2006, Richard Mikisa wrote: Well, the noise helped some. We now have connectivity to fastweb net. How was that achieved if their users still are within 41/8 locally? Can't be sure what they did, but I received an e-mail asking me to check on my

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-25 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Wed, 24 May 2006, Richard Mikisa wrote: Well, the noise helped some. We now have connectivity to fastweb net. How was that achieved if their users still are within 41/8 locally? -- William Leibzon Elan Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-24 Thread Richard Mikisa
Well, the noise helped some. We now have connectivity to fastweb net. On 5/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: so how many ISPs will shun fastweb for hijacking address space? (please do -NOT- respond, its a retorical question...) --bill On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:37:12AM +0

Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-24 Thread bmanning
so how many ISPs will shun fastweb for hijacking address space? (please do -NOT- respond, its a retorical question...) --bill On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:37:12AM +0300, Richard Mikisa wrote: > > This came in from someone in Italy.. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: * >

Fwd: 41/8 announcement

2006-05-24 Thread Richard Mikisa
This came in from someone in Italy.. -- Forwarded message -- From: * Date: May 24, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: Re: 41/8 announcement To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Turns out the folks at fastweb (Italy) NAT there adsl clients but >instead of using the rfc1918 space like most people, t