RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Scott McGrath
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott McGrath Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/24/network_outages/ for the gory details. The Sean Gorman debacle

RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Larry Pingree
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott McGrath Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications I did read the article and having worked for gov't agencies twice in my career a proposal like the one floated by DHS

Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Jeff Shultz
are sufficient. -Tad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott McGrath Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications See http

Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 6/24/2004 11:57 AM, Scott McGrath wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/24/network_outages/ http://www.securityfocus.com/news/8966 is the original, for those of us who have our doubts about the register as a news source To summarize: there are existing FCC requirements to report

Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:27:10 PDT, Jeff Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The DHS is doing what it is paid to do: Look for the worst case scenario, predict the damage. At some point, somebody with some sanity needs to look at the proposal, and say If we think we have to resort to this, then the

Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Adam 'Starblazer' Romberg
I think you (and possibly The Register) are overreacting. With the current state of the government and it's previous legislation, I would consider that not overreacting at all... We as NANOG'ers need to make sure that we're in the clue. The issue of non-information leads for longer

RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Scott McGrath
I also believe that critical infrastructure needs to be protected and I am charged with protecting a good chunk of it. Also as a Ham operator I work in concert with the various emergency management organizations in dealing with possible worst case scenarios. No, not everyone who asks about

Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 6/24/2004 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:27:10 PDT, Jeff Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And the reporting requirements that the DHS is arguing against _aren't even in effect yet._ or any number of other sites that keep track of just how much trouble can be

Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications

2004-06-24 Thread Henry Linneweh
Consider the source of policy makers that make these decisions, are clueless to networks and infrastructure themselves. They fail to understand any costing metrics by adding another loop of useless people to he cycle at the expense of everyone, which will in the long run be damaging to the