Re: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Jason J. W. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a good contact number for the Hotmail NOC? We've got e-mails from Hotmail to some of our customers being returned the Hotmail sender with a 554 error message fairly regularly. Our logs aren't

Re: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Suresh, We are the outsourced provider. :-) -J - Original Message - From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason J. W. Williams Cc: nanog@merit.edu nanog@merit.edu Sent: Thu Apr 03 03:13:47 2008 Subject: Re: Hotmail NOC Contact On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Jason J. W

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Fox, Thomas
In the last 10 days or so, ever since ORDB re-activated itself and blacklisted everything, we have had deliverability problems to: MSN Hotmail Bellsouth ATT (the same as Bellsouth I think) Yahoo Detroit Edison In the case of MSN and Hotmail, they told us they were using Symantec’s Brightmail

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Raymond L. Corbin
] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:37 AM Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Hotmail NOC Contact In the last 10 days or so, ever since ORDB re-activated itself and blacklisted everything, we have had deliverability problems to: MSN Hotmail Bellsouth ATT

Re: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
No. Thats not because of ordb. Because you see, if hotmail or these other providers were using ORDB (they sure as hell arent) none of the subscribers to those srevices would be getting ANY email at all. There's some other issue with your IP. And it is an issue that multiple providers are

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Fox, Thomas
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond L. Corbin Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:01 AM To: Fox, Thomas Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Hotmail NOC Contact Hey, Are you having trouble emailing them, or them to you. I think this thread

Re: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Al Iverson
On 4/3/08, Fox, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last 10 days or so, ever since ORDB re-activated itself and blacklisted everything, we have had deliverability problems to: MSN Hotmail Bellsouth ATT (the same as Bellsouth I think) Yahoo Detroit Edison In the case of MSN

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Fox, Thomas
NOC Contact No. Thats not because of ordb. Because you see, if hotmail or these other providers were using ORDB (they sure as hell arent) none of the subscribers to those srevices would be getting ANY email at all. There's some other issue with your IP. And it is an issue that multiple providers

Re: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Michael Holstein
We have identified that messages from your IP (209.255.20.17) are being blocked based on the recommendations of the Symantec Brightmail as traffic/e-mail originating from your IP matched characteristics of recent spam attacks from compromised, or 'zombie' infected, machines. Do you

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Fox, Thomas
Do you rewrite/forward mail? .. we're a .edu, and allow our students to forward to hotmail/yahoo/whatever .. so when a phishing/malware sweep hits campus, about 60% is reflected back onto the Internet (sometimes our Anticrap gateway catches it, sometimes not). Because of the way

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Raymond L. Corbin
@merit.edu Subject: RE: Hotmail NOC Contact Do you rewrite/forward mail? .. we're a .edu, and allow our students to forward to hotmail/yahoo/whatever .. so when a phishing/malware sweep hits campus, about 60% is reflected back onto the Internet (sometimes our Anticrap gateway catches it, sometimes

Re: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
What we did was to isolate our forwarding traffic out through a separate set of IPs. And then told Hotmail, Yahoo, AOL etc about the IPs. They were very glad to tag these as such in their filters This was over three years ago, and admittedly, our email traffic is rather higher (by orders of

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-02 Thread Raymond L. Corbin
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:31 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Hotmail NOC Contact Hey All, Does anyone have a good contact number for the Hotmail NOC? We've got e-mails from Hotmail to some of our customers being returned the Hotmail sender with a 554 error message fairly regularly. Our

Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-02 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hey All, Does anyone have a good contact number for the Hotmail NOC? We've got e-mails from Hotmail to some of our customers being returned the Hotmail sender with a 554 error message fairly regularly. Our logs aren't showing any rejections, so we need to talk to Hotmail and find out what the

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-02 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
. Williams; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Hotmail NOC Contact Try https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsmsblct=eformts Is it hotmail users sending your users emails that are being rejected, or is it your users sending hotmail emails that end up rejected? /r From: [EMAIL

RE: Hotmail NOC Contact

2008-04-02 Thread Raymond L. Corbin
and not the MX record. /r From: Jason J. W. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 6:13 PM To: Raymond L. Corbin; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Hotmail NOC Contact Hi Raymond, It's @hotmail.com/@live.com/@msn.com addresses sending to our users. The senders get a 554 error