Re: IBM to offer service to bounce unwanted e-mail back to the computers that sent them

2005-03-22 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 10:24:37AM -0800, Andreas Ott wrote: > http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/22/technology/ibm_spam/ If this write-up is accurate, then this is incredibly stupid in multiple ways and on multiple levels. I *hope* that this is just a misperception based on poor writing and that nobo

Re: IBM to offer service to bounce unwanted e-mail back to the computers that sent them

2005-03-22 Thread Vicky Rode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why even bother responding. Just imagine frontbridge (using them an example, I have no affiliation with them) responding to each and every spam they block..something like 7 terrabytes of data per week or so. I guess this is one way to justify for more b

Re: IBM to offer service to bounce unwanted e-mail back to the computers that sent them

2005-03-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Colin Johnston: > The better idea would be fingerprint the spam to match the bot used to match > the exploit used to run the bot to then reverse exploit back to the > exploited machine patching in the process. Doesn't work reliably. A lot of bots close the attack vector they used, to prevent

Re: IBM to offer service to bounce unwanted e-mail back to the computers that sent them

2005-03-22 Thread Colin Johnston
The better idea would be fingerprint the spam to match the bot used to match the exploit used to run the bot to then reverse exploit back to the exploited machine patching in the process. I managed to setup such a system a while ago with nimda traffic however I could not a find a software tool whi

Re: IBM to offer service to bounce unwanted e-mail back to the computers that sent them

2005-03-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Andreas Ott: > http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/22/technology/ibm_spam/ > > And I thought they knew better by now that a hijacked windows pc won't > accept mail. [...] The CNN article tries to describe IBM's proposed system, but fails badly. IBM's description is available at:

IBM to offer service to bounce unwanted e-mail back to the computers that sent them

2005-03-22 Thread Andreas Ott
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/22/technology/ibm_spam/ And I thought they knew better by now that a hijacked windows pc won't accept mail. I still consider it silly to absorb the sender's bandwidth like this (and all transits' bandwidth until someone is smart enough to put a filter up). -andreas --