Re: IP economics morphed into (TCP/RST)

2004-04-22 Thread E.B. Dreger
IvB> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:03:33 +0200 IvB> From: Iljitsch van Beijnum IvB> Who says BGP sessions must run over IP(v4)? NetBEUI, anyone? No bickering over RFC1918 on WAN links... ;-) Eddy -- EverQuick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www

Re: IP economics morphed into (TCP/RST)

2004-04-22 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 22-apr-04, at 16:11, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: There are more protection methods available than just MD5 (as you allude to Steve). One mitigator is to use "non-routed" space for BGP peer connections. Hmm ok so assume for a moment that I dont want RFC1918 for my links, what are my options? :

RE: IP economics morphed into (TCP/RST)

2004-04-22 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Blaine Christian wrote: > > > > Can I use secondary IP addresses and then BGP with these addresses, this > > would be a form of "security by obscurity" but providing you can keep the > > info a secret thats surely going to do it? > > It will depend on your architecture in

Re: IP economics morphed into (TCP/RST)

2004-04-22 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Niels Bakker wrote: > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen J. Wilcox) [Thu 22 Apr 2004, 16:11 CEST]: > > There isnt a "link-local" for IP altho this would be a great solution > > (surely this can be written for BGP??). > > 169.254/16 is not link-local and will be routed if you try.

RE: IP economics morphed into (TCP/RST)

2004-04-22 Thread Blaine Christian
> Can I use secondary IP addresses and then BGP with these > addresses, this would > be a form of "security by obscurity" but providing you can > keep the info a > secret thats surely going to do it? It will depend on your architecture in large part. In some cases there is absolutely no nee

Re: IP economics morphed into (TCP/RST)

2004-04-22 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen J. Wilcox) [Thu 22 Apr 2004, 16:11 CEST]: > There isnt a "link-local" for IP altho this would be a great solution > (surely this can be written for BGP??). 169.254/16 > Or I could use all eBGP addresses from a block which I dont route and > filter internally.. I sus

Re: IP economics morphed into (TCP/RST)

2004-04-22 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Blaine Christian wrote: > > The other is our new hot topic of security, not sure if anyone has thought > > of this yet (or how interesting it is) but the nature of the bgp attack > > means that if you can view a BGP session you can figure things about a peer > > that would ot

IP economics morphed into (TCP/RST)

2004-04-20 Thread Blaine Christian
> The other is our new hot topic of security, not sure if > anyone has thought of this yet (or how interesting it is) but > the nature of the bgp attack means that if you can view a BGP > session you can figure things about a peer that would > otherwise be hidden from you in particular the po