Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-15 Thread Charles Gucker
On 4/7/06, Alexander Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 7 April 2006 07:03:09 -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > Can you give us some examples so us "dumb Americans" can more > > precisely explain the problem? :) > > When a random customer (content hoster) asks you to accept > something o

Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-15 Thread Owen DeLong
--On April 14, 2006 9:26:56 PM +0100 Andy Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 01:13:19PM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: > > When a random customer (content hoster) asks you to accept > > something out of 8/8 that is Level(3) space, and there is no > > route at this

Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-15 Thread Chris Woodfield
I would expect some sort of confirmation that Level3 has allocated the block to them - if there is no swip or RADB object, the customer should request that Level3 create one (or both). If Level3 cannot do either (unlikely) I'd request direct contact from Level3 confirming the allocation.

Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-14 Thread Andy Davidson
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 01:13:19PM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: > When a random customer (content hoster) asks you to accept > something out of 8/8 that is Level(3) space, and there is no > route at this moment in the routing table, do you accept it, > or does Level(3) have some fancy written

Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-07 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Alexander Koch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, 7 April 2006 07:03:09 -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Can you give us some examples so us "dumb Americans" can more precisely explain the problem? :) When a random customer (content hoster) asks you to accept something out of 8/8 that i

Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-07 Thread Joe Provo
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 01:13:19PM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: > > On Fri, 7 April 2006 07:03:09 -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > Can you give us some examples so us "dumb Americans" can more > > precisely explain the problem? :) He did. > When a random customer (content hoster) asks you

Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-07 Thread Alexander Koch
On Fri, 7 April 2006 07:03:09 -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > Can you give us some examples so us "dumb Americans" can more > precisely explain the problem? :) When a random customer (content hoster) asks you to accept something out of 8/8 that is Level(3) space, and there is no route at thi

Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 7, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Alexander Koch wrote: I see very often that customers in the US send morespecs all over the place, deaggregate whole /14s or such scary crap, ask us to accept random stuff out of 4/8 and 8/8 (L3 space) by example. I am practically asking what is (if any) the normal

IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-07 Thread Alexander Koch
Folks, I see very often that customers in the US send morespecs all over the place, deaggregate whole /14s or such scary crap, ask us to accept random stuff out of 4/8 and 8/8 (L3 space) by example. I am practically asking what is (if any) the normal way for any of this. I am working by the prin