Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-12 Thread Edward B. Dreger
RG> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:36:58 +0530 RG> From: Rohit Gupta RG> On a related note : Do ISPs ever tweak around with Local RG> Prefs and weights so as to select BGP paths with greater AS RG> PATH length? Definitely. Case in point: I set up a network a few years ago that included a choice bet

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-10 Thread Stefan Mink
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 05:10:21AM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > I'm not a router guy (routing atleast), but perhaps there are performance > problems inside an ASN along a path which you connect to other places? So > you might lengthen paths through/to that ASN to force traffic across > ano

Re: Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread Rohit Gupta
Technology Banaras Hindu University - Original Message - From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rohit Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: Re: ISP Policies > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread James
On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 11:36:58AM +0530, Rohit Gupta wrote: > On a related note : Do ISPs ever tweak around with Local Prefs and weights so as to > select BGP paths with greater AS PATH length? > > Would it ever make sense for a provider to chose a longer AS PATH length BGP route > against a s

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread Rohit Gupta
Technology Banaras Hindu University - Original Message - From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:27 PM Subject: Re: ISP Policies > > At 11:04 AM +0530 9/9/04, Tulip Rasputin wrote: >>Hi Chris

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread Peter Wohlers
fic to flow via some other AS(es). Is it a normal policy to have, and do most of the ISPs have such policies in place? Thanks, Tulip - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tulip Rasputin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursd

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 11:04 AM +0530 9/9/04, Tulip Rasputin wrote: Hi Chris, Or, you just don't want to send traffic through Bill Manning's ASN because you dislike his hawiian T-Shirt Policy? There are probably a few hundred reasosn why you'd avoid an ASN... In general though I'd think that like Michel said: "It's a

RE: ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread Michel Py
> Tulip Rasputin wrote: > That's why i explicitly asked for some "social/political/etc." > reasons where an ISP may not want his traffic to traverse some > particular AS number(s). Something which is beyond BGP to > determine as of now ! :-) FWIW, this is exactly how I understood the question. It

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread Tulip Rasputin
Hi Chris, Or, you just don't want to send traffic through Bill Manning's ASN because you dislike his hawiian T-Shirt Policy? There are probably a few hundred reasosn why you'd avoid an ASN... In general though I'd think that like Michel said: "It's a pain and its doing something that bgp should do

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread Jeff Kell
Tulip Rasputin wrote: So can you give me an example of why and when would an ISP *not* want its traffic to flow via some other AS(es). Is it a normal policy to have, and do most of the ISPs have such policies in place? If you don't have a transit agreement and aren't sitting in the top tier pee

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Tulip Rasputin wrote: > Hi, > > I have a general policy question. > > Do the ISPs ever look for some particular AS number in the BGP AS_PATH and > then decide what action/preference/priority they need to take/give based on > the AS number(s) present in the BGP AS_PATH_SEQ/

RE: ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Michel Py wrote: > > > Tulip Rasputin wrote: > > Do the ISPs ever look for some particular AS number in the BGP > > AS_PATH and then decide what action/preference/priority they > > need to take/give based on the AS number(s) present in the BGP > > AS_PATH_SEQ/SET? > > > If th

RE: ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread Michel Py
> Tulip Rasputin wrote: > Do the ISPs ever look for some particular AS number in the BGP > AS_PATH and then decide what action/preference/priority they > need to take/give based on the AS number(s) present in the BGP > AS_PATH_SEQ/SET? If there is a question that nobody here wants to answer, th

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread Tulip Rasputin
in" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: Re: ISP Policies yes. On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 09:58:52AM +0530, Tulip Rasputin wrote: Hi, I have a general policy question. Do the ISPs ever look for some particular AS number

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread bmanning
yes. On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 09:58:52AM +0530, Tulip Rasputin wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a general policy question. > > Do the ISPs ever look for some particular AS number in the BGP AS_PATH and > then decide what action/preference/priority they need to take/give based on > the AS n

ISP Policies

2004-09-08 Thread Tulip Rasputin
Hi, I have a general policy question. Do the ISPs ever look for some particular AS number in the BGP AS_PATH and then decide what action/preference/priority they need to take/give based on the AS number(s) present in the BGP AS_PATH_SEQ/SET? For instance, does it happen that an ISP receives some