whats disturbing is how many contact addresses for both whois and AS#'s
bounce
sure, i agree, that's disturbing. however, it's a different problem than
having mail get ignored or ignorebotted and then depref'd so low that nobody
even bothers to call you or let you know whether a human ever
and Network Administration,
and Telecommunications
- Original Message -
From: Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates)
whats disturbing is how many contact addresses
but no matter how good an
idea it is, my complaint is still that sending e-mail toward the whois
contact for a network or AS# should elicit a clueful reply, and if it
doesn't, then the key word we're looking for is cost shifting. (and
that, in case y'all wondered, is why this is relevant to
... probably most of the Abuse issues (especially via email) would
continue to be ignored. Noone wants to handle that stuff. But
someone(s) must handle that stuff.
the underlying question is, or else what?
this is an assymetric-benefit situation. when folks ignore reports from
noncustomers
--On Monday, September 29, 2003 2:44 AM + Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
the whole end-to-end argument depends on uniform clue distribution
for scale.
...
Getting vendors to supply more appropriate defaults offers better
scaling possibilities. Your complaint might fix one user's
... probably most of the Abuse issues (especially via email) would
continue to be ignored. Noone wants to handle that stuff. But
someone(s) must handle that stuff.
the underlying question is, or else what?
* Fortunately, at least where I was, there is a knowledge of AUPs having
written
On 28 Sep 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:
Specifically, I want to know why Comcast makes itself so hard to reach.
I'll bet I could get them to talk to me about this host if it were DDoS'ing
me, or if I aggressively NMAP'd it at 25Mbits/sec for 48 hours straight.
Based on the comments in many forums,
How should an ISP tell the difference between good DNS packets and bad
DNS packets?
the bad ones are the ones people complain about.
You aren't complaining about your dynamic update packets or even all
dynamic updates. You are complaining about someone sending you packets
you don't want.
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:
I've been thinking how to use ICMP to signal different types of
responses; and even how smart edges on both ends of a communication
could establish and enforce policies. Most of these are non-malicious
communications involving misconfigured systems.
the whole end-to-end argument depends on uniform clue distribution
for scale.
...
Getting vendors to supply more appropriate defaults offers better
scaling possibilities. Your complaint might fix one user's computer,
Microsoft updating the default behaivor would fix tens of millions
of
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