Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Jake Khuon
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Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Jon Bennett
3) As time passes, more providers either understand the benefits of peering at an exchange point versus paying ${UPSTREAM} to provide transit for all of their traffic, or their traffic levels grow to the point (see point 1) where peering at ${EXCHANGE} begins to make financial sense.

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Rich Fulton
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jon Bennett wrote: Is there a need for additional IXs or are there too many today and some should be consolidated or shut down altogether? If there is a need for new IXs, where do you put them? Who decides where to build a new IX and how do you get service providers to

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread bmanning
At 12:24 pm -0500 19/3/02, Streiner, Justin wrote: http://www.ep.net/ lists many exchange points around the world, large and small. And for European IXPs there is now an association: http://www.euro-ix.net/ Which has details of the member exchanges. f which

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Bill Woodcock
Is there a need for additional IXs or are there too many today and some should be consolidated or shut down altogether? If there is a need for new IXs, where do you put them? Who decides where to build a new IX and how do you get service providers to show up there

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Andy Dills
On 19 Mar 2002, Paul Vixie wrote: As for your question re: PAIX, it is a well-engineered exchange point that has been around for a long time, with an extensive member list. That, plus whatever revenue stream PAIX has would probably make an attractive acquisition for several companies.

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Streiner, Justin
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Andy Dills wrote: This industry is so far in the shitter...so many of the big names, including players from the early days, are in chapter 11 or about to be. I'm honestly surprised that I haven't had someone try to offer me a 'genuine steal' on 20-year IRUs in awhile ;-)

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Paul Vixie
you know who to yell at. Until MFN sells them in coming months in their attempts to pay off billions of dollars of debt... No change is expected in who you yell at if PAIX isn't doing a good job. (That is, me.) -- Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, PAIX.Net Inc. (NASD:MFNX)

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread bmanning
Yo, Bill (sleepy) I know of 323 IXes today. http://www.pch.net/documents/data/exchange-points/ep-in-addrs.xls Well, this is one place where we diverge... :) I'd state that there are 323 prefixes in use at exchanges but that there are somewhat fewer switch fabrics in

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Bill Woodcock
I know of 323 IXes today. http://www.pch.net/documents/data/exchange-points/ep-in-addrs.xls Well, this is one place where we diverge... :) I'd state that there are 323 prefixes in use at exchanges but that there are somewhat fewer switch fabrics in place,

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread William Allen Simpson
Streiner, Justin wrote: If there is a need for new IXs, where do you put them? Who decides where to build a new IX and how do you get service providers to show up there once it is built? These days, that can be a chicken-and-egg question. There really isn't a formalized process for

RE: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Jeroen Massar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: which is linked from the www.ep.net site... :) But: http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Protocols/IP/IPng/IPv6_Internet_Excha nges/ Isn't listed there though :( And it lists afaik all, native IPv6 Exchange Points...

Re: Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-19 Thread Lane Patterson
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:53:23AM -0800, Jon Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a need for additional IXs or are there too many today and some should be consolidated or shut down altogether? If there is a need for new IXs, where do you put them? Who decides where to build a new

Internet Exchange Questions

2002-03-18 Thread Jon Bennett
I am a business school student studying the state of the telecom sector and specifically the Internet infrastructure. I am currently trying to understand the role theIX such as PAIX, Equinix, Telehouse, etc.. will play in the future where the number of service providers is drastically reduced