Re: Katrina impact on Internet2 backbone -- analysis

2005-09-04 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
Okay, they changed it on me. Flame away. http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/04/katrina_impact_on_ab.html - ferg -- "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd be interested in what the curmudgeons on the list think about this: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/04/katrina_impact_on

Re: Internet2

2005-04-29 Thread Vicky Rode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, comments in-line: Dan Hollis wrote: | On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Randy Bush wrote: | |>to source is still the big gap. imiho, from the ops perspective, |>only sally's ecn has made any useful approach. sadly, we may be |>able to judge the actual demand f

Re: Internet2

2005-04-27 Thread Florian Weimer
* Dan Hollis: > And there are so many IWF that applying enough cluebats to clear the path > for ECN is going to take enormous effort. ECN favors non-conformant endpoints. Therefore, it won't help you in the long run if the congestion is on a path which is shared by multiple customers. Popular

Re: Internet2

2005-04-27 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > to source is still the big gap. imiho, from the ops perspective, > only sally's ecn has made any useful approach. sadly, we may be > able to judge the actual demand for e2e qos by ecn's very slow > deployment. i think this is unfortunate, as ecn is prett

Re: Internet2

2005-04-27 Thread Randy Bush
> Steve Casner's paper, which you cited, and Sue Moon's paper at > http://an.kaist.ac.kr/~sbmoon/paper/infocom2004.pdf, both report very > limited variation in delay within the ISP network. Sue's paper goes on > to describe points of variation on the order of ten and 100 ms in some > detail as

Re: Internet2

2005-04-27 Thread Douglas Dever
On 4/26/05, Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:18:08PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Vicky Rode wrote: > > > > >Basically I meant to say not congested as the current Internet is. > > > > If your ISP has congested links you should

Re: Internet2

2005-04-27 Thread Randy Bush
> Maybe you should checkout some performance measurement numbers/papers > from ACM (www.acm.org) which should help answer some of your questions. having been an acm member since '67, i am aware of the volume published. give me a specific cite, please. > http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/net/wan-

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Vicky Rode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 since you deviated from my original post... http://www.icir.org/floyd/ccmeasure.html regards, /vicky Daniel Roesen wrote: | On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:07:15PM -0700, Vicky Rode wrote: | |>Basically I meant to say not congested as the current Internet i

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Vicky Rode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe you should checkout some performance measurement numbers/papers from ACM (www.acm.org) which should help answer some of your questions. We are doing some interesting measurement research (qos related) and unfortunately I don't have any data to sha

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Jay Ford
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Vicky Rode wrote: > Just wondering how's internet2 community/partners protecting themselves > from lawsuits of illegal use of music/movie downloads. > > In general, how are they protecting themselves from malicious code > infection spreading at internet

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:18:08PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Vicky Rode wrote: > > >Basically I meant to say not congested as the current Internet is. > > If your ISP has congested links you should complain and switch if not > fixed promptly. WTF.. She asked a

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 26, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Daniel Roesen wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:07:15PM -0700, Vicky Rode wrote: Basically I meant to say not congested as the current Internet is. It is? Parts. Other parts have better connectivity than I2 nodes. You can't really say anything about the _entire_ Interne

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Vicky Rode wrote: Basically I meant to say not congested as the current Internet is. If your ISP has congested links you should complain and switch if not fixed promptly. -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
> Basically I meant to say not congested as the current Internet is. cool. and your measurements of internet congestion are? cites, please. randy

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:07:15PM -0700, Vicky Rode wrote: > Basically I meant to say not congested as the current Internet is. It is? Regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Vicky Rode
ode |>infection spreading at internet2 speed? How are the devices coping up |>with filters in place, if any? | | | What is "internet2 speed"? As far as I can see Internet2 is a 10G based | national network. What is so special about that in this day and age? | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Ve

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Scott Call
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: What is "internet2 speed"? As far as I can see Internet2 is a 10G based national network. What is so special about that in this day and age? I think the difference is the average connection speeds of the "end users" of the netwo

Re: Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Vicky Rode wrote: In general, how are they protecting themselves from malicious code infection spreading at internet2 speed? How are the devices coping up with filters in place, if any? What is "internet2 speed"? As far as I can see Internet2 is a 10G based nation

Internet2

2005-04-26 Thread Vicky Rode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, Just wondering how's internet2 community/partners protecting themselves from lawsuits of illegal use of music/movie downloads. In general, how are they protecting themselves from malicious code infection spreading at internet2 speed? Ho