They keep saying this but never on the homepage.. maybe this is finally it!
We still have a full table from them so we'll see it die later on. (10pm local
time)
Steve
On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Nipper, Arnold wrote:
From their website: If no agreement can be reached, the network will be
shut
the threaths from the old-Ebone
network managed out of Brussels (who was part of KPNQwest) and the original
KPNQwest network managed out of the Netherlands. The message of today is
about the original KPNQwest network as far as I know.
- kurtis -
http://www.cbronline.com/cbr.nsf/latestnews/3D7D494A2E3C728A80256BF4001084B0?Opendocument
07/12/2002
Curtain Being Drawn on KPNQwest Network
The future of the KPNQwest network looks bleak, after the Customer
Support
KPNQwest
/2002
Curtain Being Drawn on KPNQwest Network
The future of the KPNQwest network looks bleak, after the
Customer Support
KPNQwest foundation decided to withdraw its support for the
operation from
23.00 hours
Hi
I Could confirm that the AS286 is dead in Spain (286 2845249 754590
00 1d17hActive)
The national AS2134 appears to be live but announce only 14 prefix. They
announce to us 100 prefix before of their financial crash.
Regards,
Daniel
On Sunday 14 July 2002 02:48,
So who felt sorry for them, and sponsored their ports? ;-)
If someone did do this they have no idea how stupid a move
that was.
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Yeah old news, The AMS-IX announced today that both ports
had been re-enabled. I hope that means AMS-IX was paid.
Regards,
Neil.
Neil J. McRae wrote (on Jun 27):
Yeah old news, The AMS-IX announced today that both ports
had been re-enabled. I hope that means AMS-IX was paid.
Nah, another last-minute 2-week stay of execution most likely.
Kill it and be done with already. The only ones making money out of
KPNQ are the
I am sorry, their NOC is located in Belgium.
Well, there is operational staff all across Europe. If that is enough to
keep the network up - I don't know. There are other issue playing in as
well on what can be kept up. Notice that the message sent out is that the
volunteer NOC will
much will
be allocated to KPNQwest. The trustees had hoped to collect enough money
to keep the businesses running until July 1, but fell short of that
goal. There should be enough money to keep the business operational for
the next couple of weeks, said someone close to the company.
The lenders
What I wonder is what they mean by shutdown. If this means that the
equipment is unplugged, then how many of these alternate providers will
suddenly discover that they have a dependency on an Ebone SDH/SONET ADM or
an Ebone DWDM box? If management at these alternate providers is just
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:37:04 BST, Neil J. McRae said:
Michael, I can't imagine a single carrier that doesn't know that
HER=GTS=EBONE=KQ. [Certainly by the volume of orders I've seen
somebody knows ! :D]
You're only seeing orders from the ones who know.
The others you'll find out about at
## On 2002-06-14 04:08 +0100 Chrisy Luke typed:
CL
CL ?$BLpEDIt?(B wrote (on Jun 14):
CL I heard that NOC of KPQWEST in Frankfurt would cease operation at 1400
CL hour (local time) today.
CL
CL Is there any additional information about this?
CL
CL http://live.ebone.com/ is probably about
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, John Payne wrote:
I found it interesting to note that a significant number of cctld servers
ignore the suggestions for root-servers in BCP40/RFC2870...
Other major zone server operators (gTLDs, ccTLDs, major zones) may also find
it useful. and leave recursion enabled on
This is not a political question, only operational process.
Has ICANN and NTIA worked out their operational issues so they can quickly
change the root zone to reflect changes in ccTLD nameservers if people
need to change which name servers are handling the ccTLDs. Last year,
some of the
Hallo Sabine,
lange nichts gehoert ...
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 09:51:11AM +0200, Sabine Dolderer/Denic wrote:
At least each IXP member would have direct connectivity to such
infrastructural services (DNS, NTP, WHOIS, NNTP??) and thereby their
customers would benefit from it.
I agree
number and distribution of registrations maybe - that comes down to number
and sizing of servers and geography/network diversity, the others are at best
operational concerns for the backend, not for the frontend DNS servers.
backend/frontend?
Taking RFC 2870, why wouldn't all of
On Fri, 07 Jun 2002 12:18:19 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
sure, you could take those sections as a starting point. But why
stop at TLDs? Why not make this applicable to -ALL- dns servers?
Mighty fine pharmaceuticals you got there. ;)
I'd settle for a requirement that dns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I mean, is it *that* hard to avoid lame delegations and typos in
the SOA or NS records?
apparently
--
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Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:36:21AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd settle for a requirement that dns servers have *basic* configuration
correct - I mean, is it *that* hard to avoid lame delegations and typos in
the SOA or NS records?
Don't even get me started on typos in the delegation
Don't even get me started on typos in the delegation records at the TLD
servers (entered by the registrants at least) there are currently 112
domains in .com alone with at least one incorrect NS record pointing at
my nameservers.
MX0 lame.delegation.to.hostname.
* MX0
Yo John!
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, John Payne wrote:
Don't even get me started on typos in the delegation records at the TLD
servers (entered by the registrants at least) there are currently 112
domains in .com alone with at least one incorrect NS record pointing at
my nameservers.
There is an
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 11:48:24AM -0700, Gary E. Miller wrote:
Yo John!
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, John Payne wrote:
Don't even get me started on typos in the delegation records at the TLD
servers (entered by the registrants at least) there are currently 112
domains in .com alone with at
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Gary E. Miller wrote:
Yo John!
There is an easy tool I use to fix that. Just put up a zone file for
them on your NS that points their www to www.playboy.com. This gets
action fast!
I think pointing it to www.poopsex.com would be far more entertaining.
Charles
RGDS
On Thursday 06 June 2002 01:08, Joao Luis Silva Damas wrote:
At 11:04 -0700 5/6/02, Randy Bush wrote:
Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility
of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in
agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this
server
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 07:25:47PM +0200, Daniel Diaz wrote:
Dear all,
Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility of its
services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in agreement with
KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this server (ns.eu.net) in its
premises
I suggest that if the RIPE need another provider that they
take time and issue a proper RFI/P/Q through the European
Journal. It does ask an interesting question over disaster
recovery in situations like this.
Regards,
Neil.
--
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
Hello,
DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some
other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer
secondary service for other ccTLDs
2002 16:07
To: Jan-Ahrent Czmok; Sabine Dolderer/Denic
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As a lot
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Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
Hello,
DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some
other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer
secondary service for other ccTLDs
Yes, but there is problem about the transit for the network of the IXP
In my experience, some big providers only have the commercial view of
internet.
Really, if all the IXP members give some transit to the IXP for essential
services, internet will be more robust.
Daniel
Intelideas
On
--On Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:16:34 -0400 Jared Mauch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While a good idea, not everyone can announce or reach the
IX fabrics that they connect to or are out there.
One solution to that problem is to have the IX operate a
zeebra/gated/whatnot box (or
This is not a political question, only operational process.
Has ICANN and NTIA worked out their operational issues so they can quickly
change the root zone to reflect changes in ccTLD nameservers if people
need to change which name servers are handling the ccTLDs. Last year,
some of the ccTLD
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Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:13:08PM +0200, Daniska Tomas wrote:
how would you guarantee connectivity?
as you have a lot of ISPs around you it should
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:31:21PM +0200, Daniel Concepcion wrote:
Yes, but there is problem about the transit for the network of the IXP
In my experience, some big providers only have the commercial view of
internet.
If an IXP decides to offer infrastructural services then you have to
Gert,
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 02:59:22PM +0100, Neil J. McRae wrote:
I suggest that if the RIPE need another provider that they
take time and issue a proper RFI/P/Q through the European
Journal. It does ask an interesting question over disaster
recovery in situations like this.
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
Hello
--On Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:47:52 -0400 Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This is not a political question, only operational process.
Has ICANN and NTIA worked out their operational issues so they can quickly
change the root zone to reflect changes in ccTLD nameservers if
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote (on Jun 06):
Indeed, for example k.root-servers.net is hosted at LINX and is reachable
globally by this kind of setup..
A few of LINXs' members also transit the services provided by LINX
for the good of the community - ie, at zero cost. That includes
k.root. I don't
Has ICANN and NTIA worked out their operational issues so they can quickly
change the root zone to reflect changes in ccTLD nameservers if people
need to change which name servers are handling the ccTLDs. Last year,
some of the ccTLD operators were complaining it sometimes took weeks after
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
Hello
At 16:35 +0200 6/6/02, Gert Doering wrote:
Hmmm? As far as I can see, RIPE has enough providers. The problem is
that the ccTLD secondary server hosted at KQ broke -
ns.eu.net has not broke. At least not yet.
KPNQwest still has very competent people (and I would like to
specifically thank
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:24:40PM +0200, Daniel Concepcion wrote:
Yes Neil,
It should be interesting to know the 'official' requirements/recommendations
for ccTLD's hosting
For example: diversity geographical, network needs, security needs, building
environment., etc
I've only been
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Concepcion writes:
Yes Neil,
It should be interesting to know the 'official' requirements/recommendations
for ccTLD's hosting
For example: diversity geographical, network needs, security needs, building
environment., etc
I don't know of any official
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 02:12:36PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Concepcion writes:
Yes Neil,
It should be interesting to know the 'official' requirements/recommendations
for ccTLD's hosting
For example: diversity geographical, network needs,
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Randy Bush wrote:
that was the fast track. it can take months.
Months? Years more like.
.nz have been trying to update their whois information for a couple of
years (IIRC) now. From what I understand the update have been refused
since their won't sign the ICANN contracts
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Concepcion writes:
Yes Neil,
It should be interesting to know the 'official' requirements/recommendations
for ccTLD's hosting
For example: diversity geographical, network needs, security needs, building
environment., etc
I don't know of
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 07:53:49PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I don't know of any official requirements. But RFCs 2182 and 2870
offer good guidance. (Some of 2870 is root zone-specific, but most of
it would apply to a ccTLD server.)
--Steve Bellovin,
Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility
of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in
agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this
server (ns.eu.net) in its premises.
nice emergency hack and sorry to whine. but i used them both
to get
well bad sad news,
http://www.totaltele.com/view.asp?ArticleID=52446pub=ttcategoryid=0
Considering the number of messages about companies going bust, this
one seems vaguely operational for some...
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/020529/200205292257000882_2.html
There are a number of quotes from people familiar with the matter,
but as I understand it the background is sound. If
Anyone able to outline a worst case scenario, on what the effect would be, if the KPN
network really goes down?
cheers
eric
Considering the number of messages about companies going bust, this
one seems vaguely operational for some...
Anyone able to outline a worst case scenario, on what the effect would be,
if the KPN network really goes down?
the world ends, we all die, and the universe goes dark
-founder of Xlink = KPNQwest Germany)
Randy,
Anyone able to outline a worst case scenario, on what the effect would be,
if the KPN network really goes down?
the world ends, we all die, and the universe goes dark
But the Internet, build on resilient technology, will survive...
__
Erik-Jan.
Quoting Rob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Considering the number of messages about companies going bust, this
one seems vaguely operational for some...
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/020529/200205292257000882_2.html
There are a number of quotes from people familiar with the matter,
but as
Rob. I fully agree: operational importance, in deed and afaik, for
commercial as well as for RE. Let's hope for some 11th hour fix...
If anyone is concerned please feel free to drop me an email.
Regards,
Neil.
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On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:46:16AM +0200, Erik-Jan Bos wrote:
But the Internet, build on resilient technology, will survive...
Is it?
--msa
I think Erik-Jan was dripping sarcasm :)
- James
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