Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-30 Thread Randy Bush
> The reason it appears MPLS won't work for us is that it introduces > unnecessary complexity. Between running BGP to the cloud and the design > complexity to accomodate the service...it is not worth it. it also does not give the end-sites provider independence. randy

Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-30 Thread Tony Varriale
AM Subject: Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN but you do loose the traffice QoS (esp in the internet fabric) you get with MPLS. I'm curious... Does anyone, anywhere run QoS in the Internet fabric, with or without MPLS? I know that some companies (like the one I work for) do offer several leve

Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-30 Thread Henry Yen
(sorry for the continuing top-post) Speaking of Hub-and-Spokes, what about Frame Relay (from a single provider that covers all your states)? I imagine that it's probably run over their own backbone using MPLS anyway. On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 05:00:56AM +0300, Kim Onnel wrote: > > What about doi

Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:07:09 BST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > peering connection. As far as I know, nobody uses QoS > over these connections and nobody does MPLS peering over > these connections. There is no network design concept so misguided that absolutely *nobody* is doing it. It's a virtual c

Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-30 Thread Michael . Dillon
> but you do loose the traffice QoS (esp in the > internet fabric) you get with MPLS. I'm curious... Does anyone, anywhere run QoS in the Internet fabric, with or without MPLS? I know that some companies (like the one I work for) do offer several levels of service in their MPLS core networks. B

Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-30 Thread Kim Onnel
What about doing the VPN onver the internet, with IPSec tunnels terminated in a hub and spoke model, i dont know price wise, but it would work fine. On 8/29/05, Todd Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm looking at connecting 15+ multi-state locations together to start > forming a priv

Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-30 Thread Martin Hepworth
Todd Reed wrote: I’m looking at connecting 15+ multi-state locations together to start forming a private corporate network. The sites are small with 25-30 devices. I want to avoid direct-T1’s due to cost, therefore I’m looking for alternatives. I know I can do site-to-site VPN, but I’ve als

Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-30 Thread Network Fortius
Technology aside (I would definitely prefer MPLS, simply because it may allow me to do more with VoIP quality, than unmanaged site-to- site VPNs), I have not been able to find MPLS providers with lesser costs than dedicated lines, for equivalent port speed. I have looked at MCI, SBC and Sp

Re: MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 29/08/05, Todd Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking at connecting 15+ multi-state locations together to start > forming a private corporate network. The sites are small with 25-30 > devices. I want to avoid direct-T1's due to cost, therefore I'm looking for > alternatives. I know I

MPLS or Site2Site VPN

2005-08-28 Thread Todd Reed
I’m looking at connecting 15+ multi-state locations together to start forming a private corporate network.  The sites are small with 25-30 devices.  I want to avoid direct-T1’s due to cost, therefore I’m looking for alternatives.  I know I can do site-to-site VPN, but I’ve also heard a lot